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Islamic cleric: Jews "are enemies not because they occupied Palestine"
jihadwatch ^ | March 6, 2009 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/08/2009 10:57:40 AM PDT by Milagros

Egyptian cleric: The Jews "are enemies not because they occupied Palestine. They would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing." [March 6, 2009 ]

They keep telling us that it isn't about "stolen land," and that land concessions and even the creation of a Palestinian state will not end the conflict. And we keep refusing to believe it.

"Egyptian Cleric Muhammad Hussein Ya’qoub: The Jews Are the Enemies of Muslims Regardless of the Occupation of Palestine," from MEMRI TV, January 17 (just posted), with thanks to Sr. Soph:

Following are excerpts from a speech delivered by Egyptian cleric Muhammad Hussein Ya’qoub, which aired on Al-Rahma TV on January 17, 2009.

Muhammad Hussein Ya’qoub: If the Jews left Palestine to us, would we start loving them? Of course not. We will never love them. Absolutely not. The Jews are infidels – not because I say so, and not because they are killing Muslims, but because Allah said: “The Jews say that Uzair is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that Christ is the son of Allah. These are the words from their mouths. They imitate the sayings of the disbelievers before. May Allah fight them. How deluded they are.” It is Allah who said that they are infidels.

That's Qur'an 9:30.

Your belief regarding the Jews should be, first, that they are infidels, and second, that they are enemies. They are enemies not because they occupied Palestine. They would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing. Allah said: “You shall find the strongest men in enmity to the disbelievers [sic] to be the Jews and the polytheists.”

Qur'an 5:82.

Third, you must believe that the Jews will never stop fighting and killing us. They [fight] not for the sake of land and security, as they claim, but for the sake of their religion: “And they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back you’re your religion, if they can.”

Qur'an 2:217.

This is it. We must believe that our fighting with the Jews is eternal, and it will not end until the final battle – and this is the fourth point. You must believe that we will fight, defeat, and annihilate them, until not a single Jew remains on the face of the Earth.

It is not me who says so. The Prophet said: “Judgment Day will not come until you fight the Jews and kill them. The Jews will hide behind stones and trees, and the stones and tree will call: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him – except for the Gharqad tree, which is the tree of the Jews.” I have heard that they are planting many of these trees now. [...]

That Hadith can be found at Sahih Muslim 6985.

As for you Jews – the curse of Allah upon you. The curse of Allah upon you, whose ancestors were apes and pigs.

That's Qur'an 2:62-65; 5:59-60; and 7:166.

You Jews have sown hatred in our hearts, and we have bequeathed it to our children and grandchildren. You will not survive as long as a single one of us remains.

[...]

Oh Jews, may the curse of Allah be upon you. Oh Jews... Oh Allah, bring Your wrath, punishment, and torment down upon them. Allah, we pray that you transform them again, and make the Muslims rejoice again in seeing them as apes and pigs. You pigs of the earth! You pigs of the earth! You kill the Muslims with that cold pig [blood] of yours.

And now the learned analysts will turn to one another and repeat once again that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict has nothing to do with theology, nothing to do with Islam.



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1 posted on 03/08/2009 10:57:40 AM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros
Hmmmm.... Not a lot of flexibility for negotiation there.

The knife cuts both ways when you make statements like that...

2 posted on 03/08/2009 11:12:31 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Milagros

NOW we get to the heart of the matter.

Muslims will never like Jews and Christians. Their religion commands them to hate the Jews and Christians, regardless of whether they fight back.


3 posted on 03/08/2009 11:13:36 AM PDT by Jeb21
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To: Milagros

“The Translation of the Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari
Arabic-English
Volume 5
Ahadith 3649 to 4473
Translated by: Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
Darussalam”

on pages 452-453:

“4467. Narrated Aishah: The Prophet died while his armour was mortgaged to a Jew for thirty i.e., 30 Sa of barley.”


4 posted on 03/08/2009 11:26:05 AM PDT by Finnish lurker
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To: Finnish lurker
He had a personal vendetta...
5 posted on 03/08/2009 11:29:14 AM PDT by Milagros
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To: Jeb21
 Islamic Hatred, Islamo fascism, the 'apes & pigs' thing!
 

Christians are 'pigs' & Jews are 'apes'

Islamic Hatred, Islamo fascism


We do use books that call Jews 'apes' and Christians as 'pigs' admits head of Islamic school,The principal of an Islamic school has admitted that it uses textbooks which describe Jews as 'apes' and Christians as 'pigs' and has refused to withdraw them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=434506&in_page_id=17 70

When I read that the principal of a school had admitted that it used textbooks that called Christians "pigs" and Jews "apes".
http://theaustralianindex.com/?page=search&searchterms=%22christians%22

King Fahad Academy in Acton, west London has said that The schoolbooks in use describe Jews as monkeys or apes and Christians as pigs... How is it that a holy book has a reference to people as "monkeys"?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/christopher_howse/blog/2007/02/07/whats_this_about_apes_and_pigs

Pupils aged five 'poisoned' at Islamic school that 'teaches hate'
An Islamic school is poisoning the minds of pupils with lessons in hate, a former teacher claims.
Colin Cook, 57, says textbooks used by children as young as five at the King Fahad Academy in Acton describe Jews as "repugnant" and "apes" and Christians as "pigs".
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/02/pupils_aged_five_poisoned_at_i.php

A BRITISH Muslim school is teaching children that Jews are “repugnant apes” and Christians “pigs”, a former teacher claims.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007060106,00.html

Christians still 'swine' and Jews 'apes' in Saudi schools.
By Harry de Quetteville, Middle East Correspondent. Last Updated: 1:22am BST 25/06/2006 ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/25/wsaudi25.xml

NPR : Saudi Textbooks Still Teach Hate, Group Says It says that the textbooks instruct students that Christians and Jews are apes and pigs, and warns students not to greet, befriend, or respect non-believers (aka non Muslims) ...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5426633

Steven Stalinsky on Saudi Arabia & Textbooks on National Review Online A textbook for eighth graders explains why Jews and Christians were cursed by Allah and turned into apes and pigs. Quoting Surat Al-Maida, Verse 60.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-stalinsky020703.asp

The Swine are Christians and the Apes are Jews
See the verses quoted above, which establish the apes and pigs reference and show that Allah’s curse is on Jews and Christians.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22578

American Congress For Truth Brigitte Gabriel
Jews and Christians - Cursed by Allah and Turned into Apes and Pigs- a textbook explains why Jews and Christians were cursed by Allah and turned into apes
http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/sign-our-petition.asp

American Thinker: Allah's special little apes and pigs... says that if the People of the Book (Jews and Christians, but he deals ... We have tolerated you for a long time — you offspring of apes and pigs!
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/01/allahs_special_little_apes_and.html

MEMRI TV
Some of us (Muslims) say: "May Allah curse the Jews and the Christians, the offspring of apes and pigs." Is this the language of progress? ...
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1363

Another verse linking Christians with apes and pigs is 3:61; according to
the commentary on this verse, a deputation of Christians from Najran came to...
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=sr&ID=SR01102

Christians still 'swine' and Jews 'apes' in Saudi schools
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/25/wsaudi25.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/0 6/25/ixnews.html


In Spain, during periods of friction between the various religious
communities, the Muslims called the Jews "apes" and the Christians "pigs and
dogs. ...

Their research revealed that viewing Jews as the 'descendants of apes and pigs' is grounded in the most important Islamic religious sources. ...
http://www.paktoday.com/wall2.htm

The Swine are Christians and the Apes ...See the verses quoted above, which
establish the apes and pigs reference and show that Allah’s curse is on Jews and
Christians. ...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22578

If you are a Jew or Christian you are a pig-descendent or an ape-descendent.
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=sr&ID=SR01102

Ramadan in Saudi Arabia To punish them, Allah has turned them into apes
and pigs." ... along with Allah" – in other words, against Christians, Jews and
pretty much everyone else.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35510

Teach Kids Peace – Saudi Education: Hatred of Christians & Jews Jews
and Christians - Cursed by Allah and Turned into Apes and Pigs: A textbook for
8th grade ... To punish them, Allah has turned them into apes and pigs.
http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc3516.php

CNN.com - Transcripts "Jews and Christians cursed by Allah and turned into
apes and pigs. ... To punish them, Allah had turned them into apes and pigs."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0612/21/gb.01.html

Townhall.com::Stand up: Wafa Sultan is passing::By Mona Charen... Islam
forbids them to offend the beliefs of others, and yet characterize Christians
and Jews as "those who incur Allah's wrath" or as apes and pigs.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MonaCharen/2006/03/17/stand_up_wafa_sultan_is_passing

Special Report - Arab Antisemitism [November 1, 2002] Based on Koranic Verses, Interpretations, and Traditions, Muslim Clerics State: The Jews Are the Descendants of Apes, Pigs, And Other Animals
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=sr&ID=SR01102

SONS OF APES AND PIGS
That's what... Islam... Jews and Christians in his Koran. - Christians under siege in virtually every Muslim country...
http://www.sonsofapesandpigs.org/2008/06/christians-under-siege-in-virt.html

Saudi education system majors in 'jihad' - Jews and Christians - apes and pigs. An 8th-grade textbook also explains "why Jews and Christians were cursed by Allah and turned into apes and pigs. ...
http://www.likud.nl/extr253.html

Saudi textbooks still teaching hate: report, Saudi textbooks still teaching hate: report. Jews, Christians referred to as apes and swine. Charles Lewis, National Post Published: Thursday, July 17, 2008 ...
Despite a promise to remove attacks on other faiths from the public school curriculum, Saudi Arabia's state-produced textbooks still refer to Jews and Christians as apes and swine, insist that Jews conspire to take over the world and on Judgment Day "the rocks or the trees" will call out to Muslims to kill the Jews, says the Washington-based Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank.
The textbooks, used by five million students in the kingdom every year, as well as in many Saudi-funded institutions outside the country, also attack homosexuals and Muslims who do not practice a fundamentalist form of Islam.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=662057

6 posted on 03/08/2009 11:30:26 AM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros

The Koran [snort...hock...ptooi] is nothing more than a steaming, putrid pile of hateful sh*t masquerading as a holy book. The followers of the deranged, demonic, filthy and psychotic pedophile otherwise known as Mohammed [f*** him] deserve the eternal torment of hell that awaits them after this life.


7 posted on 03/08/2009 11:34:30 AM PDT by rickmichaels (Successful intervention does harm when it prevents beneficial failure)
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To: Milagros
Its not about territory or settlements. The dispute is one that goes to values and beliefs which by definition do not lend themselves to compromise. Muslims would still hate Jews and seek to kill them if Israel had never existed. Jews were persecuted and massacred in the Muslim World long before Zionism ever appeared on the world scene.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 03/08/2009 11:37:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Well, that explains why Islam is a religion of peace (barf)


9 posted on 03/08/2009 11:39:29 AM PDT by exbrit
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To: Milagros

“Palestine” is a place from the Bible, 2000 years ago. It doesn’t exist anymore and hasn’t since then. If it does, then we have a lot of maps to re-draw.

“Chins out of Hu province!”


10 posted on 03/08/2009 11:39:36 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

The Roman “Philistia”, and the current swarm of philistinians.


11 posted on 03/08/2009 11:45:10 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Milagros
Read this carefully. When the so called “Learned Man of God” says Jews he doesn't mean just those of the Jewish faith he means the all non-Muslims. Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Shintoist, Atheists, Agnostics,.. anyone who is not a Muslim.

Know your enemy.

12 posted on 03/08/2009 12:20:30 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat
Read this carefully. When the so called “Learned Man of God” says Jews he doesn't mean just those of the Jewish faith he means the all non-Muslims. Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Shintoist, Atheists, Agnostics,.. anyone who is not a Muslim. Know your enemy.

I couldn't agree with you more, it's just that they "start" with the Jews as an "easier" target...

13 posted on 03/08/2009 1:06:34 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: Jeb21

The sad part is - the Muslims are honest about the matter and we just bury our heads in the sand and keep telling ourselves that they are a wonderful, peace loving group.

Is is possible that we will ever wake-up, discard Political Correctness and face the matter head on? Guess only time will provide the answer.


14 posted on 03/08/2009 1:10:01 PM PDT by mulligan (A)
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To: mulligan

Its a matter of discrimination. These liberals can’t discriminate, tell right from wrong. Thats why they put their heads in the sand. If they wake up, and actually look at the atrocities that Muslims commit, they’d have to discriminate between right from wrong and condemn the Muslims, something they do not want to do.


15 posted on 03/08/2009 1:29:46 PM PDT by Jeb21
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To: Milagros

Uzair?


16 posted on 03/09/2009 7:12:33 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos; Milagros
Found it out here

"Ezra (Arabic: '‎عزير, 'Uzair, Turkish: 'Üzeyir) is a biblical priest who is usually believed by Muslim commentators to be the figure mentioned in the Qur'anic verse 9:30 and worshiped by Jews as "the son of God".[1] Although not explicitly mentioned in Quran among the prophets, Ezra is considered as one of the prophets by some Muslim scholars, based on Islamic traditions. Ezra lived between the times of King Solomon and the time of Zachariah, father of John the Baptist.[2][3] On the other hand, Muslim scholars such as Mutahhar al-Maqdisi and Djuwayni and notably Ibn Hazm and al-Samaw'al accused Ezra (or one of his disciples) of falsification of the Scriptures.[1] The claim that of the Quran, that the Jews believed Ezra was the son of God, has never collaborated with any evidence. In fact, the Book of Ezra, which dates more than thousand years before the Quran explicitly says Ezra is the son of Seraiah. Many scholars believe Muhammad made this assertion so as to claim pure monotheism for the Muslims alone, in his day.[4] According to Kate Zebiri, a senior lecturer at the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London, "No Jewish or extra-Qur'anic sources available to us mention worshiping of Ezra as the “son of God” by Jews."[5] According to Abraham Geiger who was very knowledgeable in Islam and won a prize for his essay "Was hat Mohammed aus dem Judenthume aufgenommen?". The essay earned Geiger a doctorate at the University of Marburg. It demonstrated that large parts of the Koran were taken from, or based on, Rabbinic literature. He also said there was no evidence of Jews ever believing Ezra was the son of God, despite his extensive knowledge in Rabbinic literature as can be seen in his quoting of various different Rabbinic texts in "Was hat Mohammed aus dem Judenthume aufgenommen?". Because of lack of evidence of any Jewish community believing Uzair (Ezra) was the son of God, this verse has caused major controversy in Islam"
17 posted on 03/09/2009 7:15:41 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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18 posted on 03/09/2009 4:10:13 PM PDT by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: SJackson

No human being that ever did live, had the dna of a pig, or an ape, and it can be proven, so we can see who the liars were.


19 posted on 03/17/2009 12:43:30 PM PDT by tessalu
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