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Your 401k could take ten years to recover, top economist says
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 2009-03-05 | Dave Cook

Posted on 03/05/2009 12:03:14 PM PST by rabscuttle385

There are no fast solutions – either for the US economy or for individuals trying to rebuild retirement funds clobbered by the falling stock market.

That was the message from Mark Zandi, one of the nation’s top economists. Mr. Zandi is co-founder and chief economist of Economy.Com, a firm that provides various kinds of research to individual, business, and corporate clients. He was the guest at a Monitor-sponsored breakfast for reporters on Thursday.

How long will it take the stock market to recover? “It could be a decade,” Zandi said. “If I were an individual thinking about the size of my nest egg, and what I would need for retirement, I think the appropriate assumption is that I am going to get 5 percent annualized returns on my assets.” Many investors enjoyed much faster growth before the stock market collapsed.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; financialcrisis; retirement; savings
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And then I read this...

Zandi has bipartisan credentials. He was an advisor to the McCain presidential campaign in 2008. The New York Times recently referred to him as a McCain campaign adviser who has become the Democrats’ favorite economist because, unlike Mr. McCain, he backs the stimulus spending. Zandi gave a presentation at last week’s White House fiscal summit...he thinks the stimulus package that Mr. Obama signed February 17 should have been bigger.

Broken clock, twice a day.

1 posted on 03/05/2009 12:03:14 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...
*Ping!*
2 posted on 03/05/2009 12:03:50 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

That’s the zero’s plan. Destroy the wealth in this country and create a nation of people dependent on government.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 12:05:15 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: rabscuttle385

There will be no recovery until Obozo is out of office.


4 posted on 03/05/2009 12:05:17 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: rabscuttle385

After the stock market (DJIA in particular) peaked in 1929, it didn’t return to those levels until the mid 1950s.

A quarter-century.


5 posted on 03/05/2009 12:05:27 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I can make a prediction too. WIth the kenyans economic policies that will not favor growth it could take decades due to extrmely flat or no growth, just like the market before it took off in the 80’s.


6 posted on 03/05/2009 12:05:47 PM PST by Anti-Kenyan
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To: rabscuttle385
Good luck with that.

Obama represents the beginning of the era of post-capitalism.

We are no longer concerned about the production of goods and services.

We are only concerned about distributing whatever is produced "fairly."

The era of the "distributionists" has arrived.

7 posted on 03/05/2009 12:06:02 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You are absolutely correct.

It is Obozo’s plan to destroy the U.S.


8 posted on 03/05/2009 12:06:09 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: rabscuttle385
I heard pretty much the same from my financial advisor, could be 9-11 years if we have growth on the same level as before.
9 posted on 03/05/2009 12:06:36 PM PST by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: rabscuttle385

Yep, the market has lost about 10 years of growth so its a safe prediction to say it will take 10 years to get it back.

I bet sooner.


10 posted on 03/05/2009 12:06:43 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Nope. Your 401K is NOT going to recover. It’s going to be nationalized.


11 posted on 03/05/2009 12:07:34 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Mine looks pretty good...

Shorting is your friend in times like these as are metals and gas/oil when the inflation hits.


12 posted on 03/05/2009 12:08:44 PM PST by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Boooooooowwwwww. Smooth)
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To: rabscuttle385

We didn’t lose money in our 401Ks, we had transferred to stable funds (money markets, treasuries) before this mess started...however, if they keep raising the debt by passing bills worth trilions, it won’t matter because our money won’t be worth anything anyway, they’ll have to devalue it.


13 posted on 03/05/2009 12:10:18 PM PST by dawn53
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To: boxerblues
...if we have growth on the same level as before.

We won't. The Zero will ensure that we don't. If he gets re-elected, and he probably will find a way, we're looking at 8 years of Marxist-Stalinist Socialism. The market may never recover in my lifetime and I'm 54. My 401(k) is in tatters. I am enraged. But there is nothing I can do...................

14 posted on 03/05/2009 12:10:39 PM PST by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: rabscuttle385

I should’ve taken that money and had a good time. In my old age, I could then let zer0 support me.


15 posted on 03/05/2009 12:11:41 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper - "Let his days be few, and let another take his office." Psalm 109:8)
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To: rabscuttle385

With the FDIC comments yesterday, and articles like this one, you get the impression someone is trying to destroy our economy.

Evidently the socialists were fairly terrified that social security might be overhauled so people could manage their own retirements.


16 posted on 03/05/2009 12:12:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: DuncanWaring
Good point. Keep in mind that when you factor dividends into the mix, it's possible to get positive returns in the stock market even if the value of your shares is "flat."

Something else to consider . . . If the value of a share of stock or a mutual fund declines from $100 to $50, then it has lost 50% of its value. That same share has to double in value (i.e., increase by 100%) in order to get back to its original level.

17 posted on 03/05/2009 12:12:23 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: rabscuttle385

If by “recover” they mean “return to the same numeric value”, well, maybe. (Maybe not, too.)

But what will a loaf of bread cost then?

And while your ability to claim losses against your taxes is limited, their ability to tax you all the way back up isn’t.


18 posted on 03/05/2009 12:12:39 PM PST by Pessimist
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To: rabscuttle385

They don’t know. They are as much in the dark as anyone else.


19 posted on 03/05/2009 12:13:00 PM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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To: rabscuttle385
The markets will never recover as long as we live under a Marxist regime.

Any claims of two years, four years, ten years, are nonsense unless the prognosticator can also correctly predict political regime change away from the current Marxist junta, and (back) to unfettered free market capitalism.

20 posted on 03/05/2009 12:13:48 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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