[Carry_Okie]

"I rise to urge the president not to waive the federal law on emission standards that is currently protecting Californians from Gov. Schwarzenegger's crusade to save our planet by destroying our economy,"

When are conservatives ever going to learn that this is not how you talk about environmental issues if you want to win?

NEVER give the left the moral high ground that what they're doing is of net environmental benefit; it simply is not true. here is how it's done"

I rise to urge the president not to waive the federal law on emission standards that is currently protecting Californians from Gov. Schwarzenegger's crusade to make money for globalist investors pretending to save our planet by destroying our economy,

I stand ready to teach any conservative candidate how to take the left to task for the environmental damage they are doing while they bankrupt the nation for fun and profit.

[marktwain]

Excellent point, Carry. I hope that the conservative politicians listen to you. So much of the debate is about how we define it.

The left has won so much simply because they own the media and have defined the debate.