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Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling
The Daily Tech Science Blog ^ | February 26, 2008 | Micahel Asher

Posted on 02/27/2009 10:54:16 AM PST by Candor7

Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

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1 posted on 02/27/2009 10:54:16 AM PST by Candor7
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To: Candor7

I’m sure it’s just another consequence of global warming. ;)


2 posted on 02/27/2009 10:55:21 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: Beckwith; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; Allegra; LucyT; STARWISE; SatinDoll; george76; F15Eagle

Freezer Ping


3 posted on 02/27/2009 10:55:47 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7
Must be due to humans threatening mother nature we are going green.
4 posted on 02/27/2009 10:55:48 AM PST by edcoil (Slave owners could justify themselves too. Think about it Arnold.)
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To: Candor7
At this point anyone advocating for regulating carbon emissions must have some alternative agenda.

Or be completely spaced out.

5 posted on 02/27/2009 10:56:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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6 posted on 02/27/2009 10:56:34 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Candor7

Don’t blame me I am doing my part to keep Earth warm - I’m CO2 positive!


7 posted on 02/27/2009 10:58:23 AM PST by DaveyB (A government's ability to give is proportionate to their power to take away!)
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To: Candor7

Too bad the article is a year old.


8 posted on 02/27/2009 10:59:10 AM PST by revtown
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To: BenLurkin

Yes Obama the Kenyan President does have an alternate agenda. Billions of dollars collected through a tax on something that does not exist.

Cap and Trade is nonsense.


9 posted on 02/27/2009 10:59:24 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Candor7; Old Professer

It’s amazing what happens when the sun decides to not spot for an extra year or two.


10 posted on 02/27/2009 10:59:32 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Who is now in charge of the "Office of the President-Elect"?)
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To: Candor7

We’re slowly finding out that if you mess with any natural system, there are bound to be unforeseen effects. We just can’t get it through our heads, though.

We are almost at a point in time where there is no longer such thing as nature. Humans and our waste have become part of nature, and that’s something we’re going to have to learn to live with.. one way or the other.


11 posted on 02/27/2009 11:00:44 AM PST by leonid
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
The pattern very closes parallels that for solar sunspot activity. We have had more sunspot-free days in the past year than any other period in the past 50 years. Keep in mind, we are currently still in a low period of the 11-year sunspot cycle. The next peak isn't due for another 2 or 3 years.

If you look at the chart below, you will see that sunspot activity (during solar maxes--the individual peaks every apprx 11 yrs) has been relatively high since about 1900 and almost non-existent for the period between about 1625 and 1725. This period is known as the Maunder (sunspot) Minimum or "Little Ice Age".-ETL


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From BBC News [yr: 2004]:
"A new [2004] analysis shows that the Sun is more active now than it has been at anytime in the previous 1,000 years. Scientists based at the Institute for Astronomy in Zurich used ice cores from Greenland to construct a picture of our star's activity in the past. They say that over the last century the number of sunspots rose at the same time that the Earth's climate became steadily warmer."..."In particular, it has been noted that between about 1645 and 1715, few sunspots were seen on the Sun's surface. This period is called the Maunder Minimum after the English astronomer who studied it. It coincided with a spell of prolonged cold weather often referred to as the "Little Ice Age". Solar scientists strongly suspect there is a link between the two events - but the exact mechanism remains elusive."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3869753.stm
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It's really hard to imagine how this little ball of fire could have any impact on our climate at all. /s

But the main arguments being made for a solar-climate connection is not so much to do with the heat of the Sun (the sun isn't getting warmer) but rather with its magnetic cycles. When the Sun is more magnetically active (typically around the peak of the 11 year sunspot cycle --we are a couple of yrs away at the moment), the Sun's magnetic field is better able to deflect away incoming galactic cosmic rays (highly energetic charged particles coming from outside the solar system). The GCRs are thought to help in the formation of low-level cumulus clouds -the type of clouds that BLOCK sunlight and help cool the Earth. So when the Sun's MF is acting up (not like now -the next sunspot max is expected in about 2011 or 2012), less GCRs reach the Earth's atmosphere, less low level, sunlight-blocking clouds form, and more sunlight gets through to warm the Earth's surface...naturally. Clouds are basically made up of tiny water droplets. When minute particles in the atmosphere become ionized by incoming GCRs they become very 'attractive' to water molecules, in a purely chemical sense of the word. The process by which the Sun's increased magnetic field deflects incoming cosmic rays is very similar to the way magnetic fields steer electrons in a cathode ray tube (old-time television tube) or electrons and other charged particles around the ring of a subatomic particle accelerator.-ETL
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There's an excellent new book out on the subject titled The Chilling Stars. It's written by one of the top scientists advancing this theory (Henrik Svensmark).

http://www.sciencedaily.com/books/t/1840468157-the_chilling_stars_the_new_theory_of_climate_change.htm
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And here is the website for the place where he does his research:
2008: "The Center for Sun-Climate Research at the DNSC investigates the connection between variations in the intensity of cosmic rays and climatic changes on Earth. This field of research has been given the name 'cosmoclimatology'"..."Cosmic ray intensities – and therefore cloudiness – keep changing because the Sun's magnetic field varies in its ability to repel cosmic rays coming from the Galaxy, before they can reach the Earth." :
http://www.spacecenter.dk/research/sun-climate
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From a well-referenced wikipedia.com column (see wiki link for ref 14):
"Sunspot numbers over the past 11,400 years have been reconstructed using dendrochronologically dated radiocarbon concentrations. The level of solar activity during the past 70 years is exceptional — the last period of similar magnitude occurred over 8,000 years ago. The Sun was at a similarly high level of magnetic activity for only ~10% of the past 11,400 years, and almost all of the earlier high-activity periods were shorter than the present episode.[14]"

[14] ^Solanki, Sami K.; Usoskin, Ilya G.; Kromer, Bernd; Schüssler, Manfred & Beer, Jürg (2004), “Unusual activity of the Sun during recent decades compared to the previous 11,000 years”, Nature 431: 1084–1087, doi:10.1038/nature02995, . Retrieved on 17 April 2007 , "11,000 Year Sunspot Number Reconstruction". Global Change Master Directory. Retrieved on 2005-03-11.


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"Reconstruction of solar activity over 11,400 years. Period of equally high activity over 8,000 years ago marked.
Present period is on [the right]. Values since 1900 not shown."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
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From NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory's "Not So Frequently Asked Questions" section:

Q-Does the number of sunspots have any effect on the climate here on Earth?

A-Sunspots are slightly cooler areas on the surface of the Sun, due to the intense magnetic fields, so they radiate a little less energy than the surroundings. However, there are usually nearby areas associated with the sunspots that are a little hotter (called falculae), and they more than compensate. The result is that there is a little bit more radiation coming from the Sun when it has more sunspots, but the effect is so small that it has very little impact on the weather and climate on Earth.

However, there are more important indirect effects: sunspots are associated with what we call "active regions", with large magnetic structures containing very hot material (being held in place by the magnetism). This causes more ultraviolet (or UV) radiation (the rays that give you a suntan or sunburn), and extreme ultraviolet radiation (EUV). These types of radiation have an impact on the chemistry of the upper atmosphere (e.g. producing ozone). Since some of these products act as greenhouse gases, the number of sunspots (through association with active regions) may influence the climate in this way.

Many active regions produce giant outflows of material that are called Coronal Mass Ejections. These ejections drag with them some of the more intense magnetic fields that are found in the active regions. The magnetic fields act as a shield for high-energy particles coming from various sources in our galaxy (outside the solar system). These "cosmic rays" (CRs) cause ionization of molecules in the atmosphere, and thereby can cause clouds to form (because the ionized molecules or dust particle can act as "seeds" for drop formation).

If clouds are formed very high in the atmosphere, the net result is a heating of the Earth - it acts as a "blanket" that keeps warmth in.

If clouds are formed lower down in the atmosphere, they reflect sunlight better than they keep heat inside, so the net result is cooling. Which processes are dominant is still a matter of research.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/classroom/notsofaq.html#SUNSPOT_CLIMATE
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NASA graph of sunspot activity over the past 400 years [note the profound lack of sunspot activity during the "Little Ice Age" period (apprx 1650-1720), AND the sharp INCREASE particularly during the past 60 years:

http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/images/ssn_yearly.jpg

12 posted on 02/27/2009 11:00:48 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Candor7
I have seen forecasts of massive global warming which are imminent.
Temperatures in the northern hemisphere are predicated to rise 30 40 degrees in just the next 3 months.

This temperature rise will cause massive vegetative changes in the landscapes of the Midwestern United States and other northern areas around the globe.

13 posted on 02/27/2009 11:01:00 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

The upper atmosphere is heating at a record rate which forces the coldest air to settle on the earth.

Of course its global warming. err. I mean global climate change.

The hippie freaks are such tools.


14 posted on 02/27/2009 11:01:12 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Shiite Muslim named Bob.)
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To: BenLurkin
At this point anyone advocating for regulating carbon emissions must have some alternative agenda.

Not an all. It's an anti-human agenda. Using carbon regulations to destroy our economy by controlling access to energy is the objective. If we all starve and freeze to death....mission accomplished!

15 posted on 02/27/2009 11:02:38 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
The newly begun sunspot cycle (Solar Cycle 24) is especially slow to get going with activity. In fact, 2008 had the most sunspot-free days of any year in the past 50.

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From NASA.gov, September 30, 2008:

Coinciding with the string of blank suns is a 50-year record low in solar wind pressure, a recent discovery of the Ulysses spacecraft. (See the Science@NASA story Solar Wind Loses Pressure.) The pressure drop began years before the current minimum, so it is unclear how the two phenomena are connected, if at all. This is another mystery for SDO and the others.

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"There is also the matter of solar irradiance," adds Pesnell. "Researchers are now seeing the dimmest sun in their records. The change is small, just a fraction of a percent, but significant. Questions about effects on climate are natural if the sun continues to dim."

Article:
Spotless Sun: Blankest Year of the Space Age [50 years]

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Astronomers who count sunspots have announced that 2008 is now the "blankest year" of the Space Age

As of Sept. 27, 2008, the sun had been blank, i.e., had no visible sunspots, on 200 days of the year. To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go back to 1954, three years before the launch of Sputnik, when the sun was blank 241 times.

"Sunspot counts are at a 50-year low," says solar physicist David Hathaway of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center. "We're experiencing a deep minimum of the solar cycle."

And it is a very quiet time. If solar activity continues as low as it has been, 2008 could rack up a whopping 290 spotless days by the end of December, making it a century-level year in terms of spotlessness.

Hathaway cautions that this development may sound more exciting than it actually is: "While the solar minimum of 2008 is shaping up to be the deepest of the Space Age, it is still unremarkable compared to the long and deep solar minima of the late 19th and early 20th centuries." Those earlier minima routinely racked up 200 to 300 spotless days per year.

Some solar physicists are welcoming the lull.

"This gives us a chance to study the sun without the complications of sunspots," says Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "Right now we have the best instrumentation in history looking at the sun. There is a whole fleet of spacecraft devoted to solar physics--SOHO, Hinode, ACE, STEREO and others. We're bound to learn new things during this long solar minimum."

As an example he offers helioseismology: "By monitoring the sun's vibrating surface, helioseismologists can probe the stellar interior in much the same way geologists use earthquakes to probe inside Earth. With sunspots out of the way, we gain a better view of the sun's subsurface winds and inner magnetic dynamo."

"There is also the matter of solar irradiance," adds Pesnell. "Researchers are now seeing the dimmest sun in their records. The change is small, just a fraction of a percent, but significant. Questions about effects on climate are natural if the sun continues to dim."

Pesnell is NASA's project scientist for the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), a new spacecraft equipped to study both solar irradiance and helioseismic waves. Construction of SDO is complete, he says, and it has passed pre-launch vibration and thermal testing. "We are ready to launch! Solar minimum is a great time to go."

Coinciding with the string of blank suns is a 50-year record low in solar wind pressure, a recent discovery of the Ulysses spacecraft. (See the Science@NASA story Solar Wind Loses Pressure.) The pressure drop began years before the current minimum, so it is unclear how the two phenomena are connected, if at all. This is another mystery for SDO and the others.

Who knew the blank sun could be so interesting?

More to come...

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/30sep_blankyear.htm

Related article:
Solar Wind Loses Power, Hits 50-year Low - Sept. 23, 2008
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/23sep_solarwind.htm

16 posted on 02/27/2009 11:02:46 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Candor7

Global cooling will make global warming look like a day at the beach.


17 posted on 02/27/2009 11:02:50 AM PST by Dapper 26
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To: BenLurkin
"At this point anyone advocating for regulating carbon emissions must have some alternative agenda. Or be completely spaced out."

Or looking for a smack.


18 posted on 02/27/2009 11:03:06 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Candor7
Colorado is so contrarian. We're having a La Nina year, which means a warm, dry winter. Clippers drop snow in the mountains, but mostly miss the plains.

That said, the last few years there has been a slowing of the bark beetle plague because of colder winters. Hansen would probably call the beetles deniers.

19 posted on 02/27/2009 11:03:18 AM PST by colorado tanker (Oh my God, am I hoping for change.)
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To: revtown
Just calling out the troops on this carbon cap Obama " destroy US industry" fascist initiative.
20 posted on 02/27/2009 11:03:50 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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