Posted on 02/26/2009 10:44:28 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814
Why than has not one single gun maker, the NRA, County Government, Law Firm or any individual or entity in the State of California challenge the law as unconstitutional and overturn an illegal State law? Where is the NRA? Why is this not being challenged again in the California Court? Why can someone own a certain class of semiautomatic rifle just because he was born before the law was passed and registered it with the State and nobody else can? How can one class of citizen own a leagal weapon type and exclude anyone else? That is a privledge granted by the State that has no right to restrict a constitutional right that is not a privledge to be granted other than by God? Where is the court challenge to restore justice and the constitution to California citizen's?
My letters to Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi and Speier have all had as their theme the fact that by pushing for a weapons ban that would make millions of law abiding Americans into criminals the Democrats are motivating those of us who oppose the laws to mobilize politically in order to oppose the Democratic Party.
Feinstein and Speier are barking mad on the subject of the second amendment. Nothing reaches them. Boxer has gone brain dead and doesn’t seem to pay any attention to constituent mail. But Nancy may be reading the polls and seeing a threat to what she values most - her power.
Unlikely. It's something of a niche cartridge, so I don't expect to be able to pay much less than $1 a round for factory ammo.
I haven't taken it out yet. I'm an indifferent shot at best, so I figure anything past 300 to 350 yards would be pushing it.
They will probably attach these four provisions of gun control to an omnibus crime bill...
1. An expanded HR 45, gun owner licensing. All gun owners will have to have these licenses, even owners of facilimie weapons (AKA Airsoft and BB). Licenses will only be granted if the records of the applicant are clean (This includes misdemeanors from decades ago). Licensees will be required to hold $1 million in liability insurance. Possession of otherwise permitted weapons (See #3) without license is a felony.
2. Ammunition accountability... All ammo will be required to be microstamped and will be taxed $1/round. All non stamped ammo will be required to be turned in or thrown away. Possession of non-marked ammo is a felony. This part of the act also bans “Cop Killer” bullets.
3. Expanded “Assault Weapons” ban— This includes most all semiauto rifles, anything that can be “Bump Fired”, Semiauto handguns, and Semi-auto shotguns. It also includes pump-action shotguns and “Sniper Rifles” AKA your deer rifle. The AWB will also require people with “Prebans” to register their guns as Machine Guns, and that the tax stamp will go up to $10,000 per weapon. If you don’t pay the registration tax, you have to turn the guns in question in without compensation...
4. Expansion of the Lautenbach amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.
Why do you suppose they are so passionate about banning the .50 caliber?
3/4 of a mile away a "cat-skinner" squeezes a trigger and disappears after one shot.
Traitor's head explodes.
Same scene occurs every other week in different states.
Even if the 'security apparatus' is VERY good, most armored limos can't stop a .50 round.
When they shreik about a .50 being able to drop an airliner, this is really what they are thinking about.
Someone out there actually has some PMAGs in stock? Do tell...
Another gun owner not having a clue what the NRA is doing.
The NRA joined with the Second Amendment Foundation and since Heller, filed five lawsuits.
Where are you?
That is undoubtedly part of it. The other part of it is setting 0bama back on his heels.
But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he (Attorney General Eric Holder) never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.
This was also a smack down on the 0bama administration. He thinks he can roll the House and Senate. Evidenced by his amateurish false start in the speech the other night. (Maybe not an accident?) Also called on by Sen. Byrd over 0bama's usurpation of Senate control with his new Czars.
Let's hope he keeps it up. The Dem Congress may neuter this pup before the GOP even wakes up.
GMTA
...or, with one of the dozen or so catch-all, omnibus pieces of legislation that pass in the middle of the night with absolutely no debate or amendments offered.
she is right... there are so many laws on the books already that if they were all enforced, there would be a ban...
they’ll defacto gun banning by decree not legislation.
teeman8r
I don't either. It's just a Good Cop, Bad Cop deal while they wait for the proper moment.
But what "laws that we have now" that Bush did not enforce, is she talking about?
I suspect import bans and restrictions, including on parts kits, using the "sporting purposes" test of the "current law".
This is even being telegraphed.
From the Website of Congressman Eliot Engle, Rat, North Suburban New York City (Git a Rope!).
Thursday February 12, 2009
REP. ENGEL URGES PRESIDENT OBAMA TO ENFORCE BUSH 41/CLINTON RESTRICTIONS ON IMPORTED ASSAULT WEAPONS
Chairman of the House Western Hemisphere Subcommittee Leads Letter with 53 Members of Congress
Washington, D.C.--Congressman Eliot Engel, Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere, wrote a letter signed by 53 Members of Congress urging President Obama to “return to enforcement of the law banning imports of assault weapons, which was previously enforced during the administrations of Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton.” The letter was also led by Congressman Michael Castle (R-DE) and Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY).
“The alarming prevalence of imported assault weapons in the US has put our nation’s police officers at risk. Returning to the Bush 41/Clinton enforcement of the ban on imported assault weapons will protect our brave police forces and all people throughout New York and the United States,” said Rep. Engel.
Engel added that returning to enforcement of the imported assault weapons ban is “a no-brainer that would require no legislative action.”
In recent years, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has quietly abandoned enforcement of the import ban (which was authorized by provisions in the 1968 Gun Control Act and enforced by Presidents George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton). As a result, the civilian firearms market is flooded with imported, inexpensive military-style assault weapons, primarily from former Eastern bloc countries including Romania, Bulgaria and the former Yugoslavia. Importers are also able to skirt the restrictions by bringing in assault weapons parts and reassembling them with a small number of US-made parts. Assault weapon “parts kits” for assembly by individuals are also being imported. ATF has further weakened the prohibition by placing certain extremely problematic assault rifles on the "curios or relics" list, making certain firearms automatically eligible for importation.
"Our failure to enforce restrictions on imported assault weapons is affecting our bilateral relationship with Mexico," said Rep. Engel. "We must do more to support our friends in Mexico whose drug war is fueled by firearms flowing south from the United States, many of which should never have entered the US in the first place.”
5,661 people died in Mexico in 2008 alone as a result of drug-related violence. This is more than double the 2007 total of 2,773. Over 90% of firearms confiscated yearly in Mexico orginate in the United States. As Chairman of the House Western Hemisphere Subcommittee, Rep. Engel is a strong supporter of the Merida Initiative – a US-Mexico security partnership announced in late 2007. However, he also believes that the US must fulfill certain domestic obligations under the Merida Initiative, including an enhanced commitment to curb the illegal trafficking of firearms from the US into Mexico.
The full text of the letter and signatories are below:
Dear Mr. President:
We write to urge you to return to enforcement of the ban on imported assault weapons, including those that are fully manufactured abroad as well as those imported as parts, which was previously enforced during the administrations of Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. We believe that this issue has important implications for domestic public safety, homeland security, and our bilateral relationship with Mexico.
In the last eight years, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has almost completely abrogated the ban on imported assault rifles. This ban – first established nearly 20 years ago – was authorized by provisions in the 1968 Gun Control Act allowing ATF to prohibit the importation of firearms and ammunition that are not “particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.” The import restriction is independent of the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, and was not affected by its “sunset” in 2004.
The ban on assault weapon imports was first enforced by the George H.W. Bush Administration in response to growing threats to law enforcement personnel from the increased use of assault weapons by drug traffickers and in mass shootings, like the Stockton schoolyard massacre in 1989. The import restrictions were later strengthened in 1998 by the Clinton Administration to address foreign manufacturers that were evading the ban by making minor cosmetic changes to their weapons. The definition was changed to include any assault rifle with the "ability to accept a detachable large capacity magazine originally designed and produced for a military assault weapon.”
Unfortunately, in recent years, ATF has quietly abandoned enforcement of the import ban. As a result, the civilian firearms market is flooded with imported, inexpensive military-style assault weapons from primarily former Eastern bloc countries including Romania, Bulgaria and the former Yugoslavia. Importers are also able to skirt the restrictions by bringing in assault weapons parts and reassembling them with a small number of US-made parts. Assault weapon “parts kits” for assembly by individuals are also being imported. ATF has further weakened the prohibition by placing certain extremely problematic assault rifles on the "curios or relics" list, making certain firearms automatically eligible for importation.
The noxious results of reversing long-established policy extend beyond our borders and are directly affecting our foreign policy. Assault weapons are being smuggled in bulk from U.S. border states to Mexico where they are used by narco-traffickers to fuel a drug war that is killing Mexican law enforcement and other officials at alarming rates.
The violence in Mexico has reached crisis proportions. In December, Mexican Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora reported that the total number of organized crime-related homicides in 2008 had reached 5,700, more than double the previous record of approximately 2,700 set in 2007. The 2008 total includes 944 people killed in November alone, the deadliest month in Mexico’s history, in terms of drug violence. In addition, the Attorney General confirmed that nearly 15 percent of the victims of the violence were members of law enforcement or the military. He also projected that the country’s drug violence has not yet peaked, and is expected to continue during the first few months of 2009. When the Merida Initiative was announced in October 2007, the George W. Bush Administration made a commitment to “intensify efforts” to combat the trafficking of guns from the U.S. into Mexico. A return to the enforcement of the ban on the import of all assault weapons would help us to live up to this commitment.
Not only is the violence in Mexico already spilling over the border into the U.S., but the prevalence of imported assault weapons in the hands of criminals has made “officer survival” a critical issue for many urban law enforcement agencies. The Miami Police Department has reported a steep rise in the number of murders and other crimes committed with assault weapons; a Romanian WASR-10 (AK-type) assault weapon was used to kill two Fairfax, Virginia police officers in 2006; a Romanian WASR-10 assault weapon was used in a mass shooting that left eight dead at a mall in rural Omaha, Nebraska in 2007. The Associated Press conducted an analysis showing that the number of AK variants traced to crime by ATF has increased from 1,140 in 1993 to 8,547 in 2007.
These are just the sort of incidents and statistics that prompted the George H.W. Bush Administration to take action to halt assault weapons imports in 1989, and we believe demonstrate the importance of returning to enforcing the import ban once again.
We ask that you direct ATF to act in accordance with the 1968 Gun Control Act and return to enforcing the ban on the import of all assault weapons, both those that are fully manufactured abroad as well as those imported as parts. By restoring these important restrictions, we will be able to help reduce violence here in the United States, while also sending an important signal to our friends in Mexico. Thank you for your attention to this urgent matter.
Sincerely,
Eliot L. Engel (D-NY)
Michael N. Castle (R-DE)
Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Gregory Meeks (D-NY)
Christopher Smith (R-NJ)
Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Nita Lowey (D-NY)
Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Bob Filner (D-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Ellen Tauscher (D-CA)
Louise Slaughter (D-NY)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
David Price (D-NC)
Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC)
Edward Markey (D-NA)
Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Jim Moran (D-VA)
Robert Wexler (D-FL)
Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)
Gary Ackerman (D-NY)
Henry Waxman (D-CA)
Jose Serrano (D-NY)
John Conyers (D-MI)
Nydia Velazquez (D-NY)
Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)
Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)
John Olver (D-MA)
Betty McCollum (D-MN)
Rush Holt (D-NJ)
Linda Sanchez (D-CA)
Albio Sires (D-NJ)
Betty Sutton (D-OH)
Donna Christensen (D-VI)
Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)
Sam Farr (D-CA)
Jim McGovern (D-MA)
Lois Capps (D-CA)
Allyson Schwartz (D-PA)
Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
Michael McMahon (D-NY)
Donna Edwards (D-MD)
Tim Bishop (D-NY)
Pete Stark (D-CA)
Doris Matsui (D-CA)
Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Paul Tonko (D-NY)
Mazie Hirono (D-HI)
Notice that they are all 'Rats. A real nest of 'em.
All it takes is a stroke of Eric Holder's Pen, and it's a done deal.
A few words, attached to almost any of Obami's "Emergency Must Pass" legislation, to change the definition of "armor piercing" ammunition to, as the Violence Policy Center wishes, to a "performance standard", and include rifle ammunition, and we won't have any more ammo for anything beyond .380 and .22 Long Rifle.
The license would require a thumbprint, taking of a test (which Eric Holder would get to design), and payment of a fee.
Also, the bill would require that upon transfer of such weapons, the make, model and serial number, along with the name and address of the transferor and transferee, and the "License number" of the transferee. IOW, registration.
But heh, it's not an Assault Weapons Ban.
Heck they might slap a new name on HR 1022, from the last Congress, and pass that. Cop Killer Weapons maybe?
When it's time to hide them, it's time to bring them out.
Midway USA had a few today
I don't get it.
I think they will wait until there is some tragedy to take advantage of.
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