Posted on 02/25/2009 6:52:31 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
They have got to be kidding!
I had never heard of Gravity Probe B until you brought it up. I searched for it on google with the added word “creation” and this popped up. It’s a bit dated, but I thought you might be interested. I haven’t read it yet, but I will now since you seem to be so fascinated by the potential implications. All the best—GGG
http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5794/
I know you’re a busy man slaying all those dragons of Darwinism. I been sorting through the chaff for a few grains of sense in those threads but they’er few and difficult to find. Oh well, Darwinism had its day. Time to put it in the attic with Java man.
Humphreys just has zero credibility with me. For example this gem of deliberate misunderstanding:
“Scripture itself gives a clue: it looks like the expanse (firmament, heavens, space) is an actual material that we cannot perceive as we move through it and it moves through us. For example, it can be stretched out (Job 9:8 and 16 other Old Testament verses as discussed in reference 1), torn (Isaiah 64:1), worn out like a garment (Psalm 102:26), shaken (Hebrews 12:26, Haggai 2:6, Isaiah 13:13), burnt up (2 Peter 3:12), split apart like a scroll (Revelation 6:14), and rolled up like a mantle (Hebrews 1:12) or a scroll (Isaiah 34:4), see Figure 1.”
“Scripture itself gives a clue: it looks like the expanse (firmament, heavens, space) is an actual material...”
No it doesn’t, as the rankest student recognizes metaphor when they read things like that. The Scripures says God walks around, has hands, eyes, a heart, a wife, a throne, etc. yet
no person with any understanding of Scripture would take such descriptions as literal as does Humphreys above with similar Scriptures.
His idea of “material” that we cannot percieve as it moves through us and we through it sounds like “The Force” from Star Wars.
And he adds this enlightening explanation:
“These and other physics clues suggest that the material, which from the biblical clues I call the “fabric” of space, is an elastic solid, like a very rigid and enormously massive crystal. That could be why the Hebrew word for the expanse (raqia), and the Greek and Latin translations of it (stereoma and firmamentum) all have some connection with solidity and firmness, as does the English word, “firmament” used (coined?) by the King James translators.3 “
Again he’s blowing smoke. Here is what the Hebrew word for firmament means:
“raqiya`
raw-kee’-ah
from ‘raqa`’ (7554); properly, an expanse, i.e. the firmament or (apparently) visible arch of the sky:—firmament.
And here is what the Greek word he qoutes, stereoma, means:
“4733
sterewma
stereoma
ster-eh’-o-mah
from stereow - stereoo 4732; something established, i.e. (abstractly) confirmation (stability):—stedfastness.”
Nothing there would lead one to think either was an invisible solid material. Humphreys simply makes up stuff as he goes along. So no, I won’t waste my time on the rest of his nonsense.
” from the biblical clues I call the “fabric” of space, is an elastic solid, like a very rigid and enormously massive crystal.” Maybe its frozen water.
I was in Roswell in 1947 and saw the debris fom the ufo. From that time I have realized that our cosmos is not just home to us but to many other civilizations that can get to here from wherever they come from. I am a Roman Catholic and realized that God is the master of the Universe. I was quite pleased when the Vatican proclaimed that belief in extraterrestrial civilizations is consistent with belief in God and the Holy Trinity. Seeing is believing
Say hi to Art Bell for me. LOL
All the best (and Shalom!)—GGG
Thanks for the ping!
Thanks for the ping!
The most usual answer is instantaneously, since time lags might have showed up by now?
The gravity field propagates at the speed of light but established field effects are instantaneous. The problem with testing gravity is that it is such a weak force compared to the other forces and we have no shielding against it. Our instrumentation just isn't up to the task. It may take a near Earth catastrophe to get good solid evidence.
Time may be an illusion to human senses.. and qualia..
Time could be multi-dimensional like gravity.. warping space.. or even reality..
Posters rarely finish their sentences:
The universe is 7 days old from the inception space/time coordinates.
Whatever she said...
A comparison of nuclear density to Planck density demonstrates the utter truth of the use of the term 'firmament'.
"This [planck density] is a unit which is very large, about equivalent to 10^23 solar masses squeezed into the space of a single atomic nucleus."
LOLOL!
This sounds like Jewish mysticism and kabbalah tarted up in fancy rags.
This an example of Tene’s “body of work” from the Meru web site:
“SECRETS OF THE HEBREW LETTERS
by Cynthia Gage for Atlantis Rising, Issue #13, November 1997
By fusing mathematics and Jewish mysticism, Tenen has demonstrated that the first verse of Genesis in the Hebrew Bible generates a mathematical Torus. When a particular portion is removed from this ‘doughnut’, its shape mirrors the human hand. Tenen claims the Hebrew alphabet is based on the human hand, because it represents the function of differentiating self from other, inside from outside. “The alphabet links the inner world of the mind with the outer world of experience, just as our hands do,” he says. “And,” he continues, “The first letter of the book of Genesis -Bet- means ‘house’, something that distinguishes inside from outside; this is the most basic distinction you can make at any level of consciousness.”
www.meru.org/Press/Atlantisrising.html”
But wait! There’s more! Check out the web site.
“can get to here from wherever they come from.”
Why yes, everyone got here from where they came from. Its tough to get here from anywhere else.
The UFO didn’t crash, Will Smith was flying it in Independence Day, but only tell your twelve best friends!
Please explain more of this utter truth.
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