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Steele: GOP needs 'hip-hop' makeover
Washington Times ^ | Thursday, February 19, 2009 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 02/19/2009 7:27:51 AM PST by TADSLOS

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To: TADSLOS

Uh oh.....


141 posted on 02/19/2009 11:35:54 AM PST by Antoninus (License is the ability to do whatever you want. Freedom is the right to do as you ought.)
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To: TADSLOS
Yo, yo, yo, here be our spokeschumpie....


142 posted on 02/19/2009 11:39:48 AM PST by Antoninus (License is the ability to do whatever you want. Freedom is the right to do as you ought.)
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To: penelopesire

Sigh... we should have stuck with Duncan...much more comfortable fit for the GOP as it would have shrunk into oblivion.


143 posted on 02/19/2009 11:50:46 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Antoninus; Hazzardgate; Yo-Yo

144 posted on 02/19/2009 12:42:25 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Ranjit; EternalVigilance
Not by liberal ideas but BRINGING out the scared conservatives and repbulicans from the closet.

I have never seen such a thing in my entire life. Conservatives have two modes: "Triumphant" and "disgusted". "Scared" ain't in them.

145 posted on 02/19/2009 1:06:36 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNxG0Eo3QtY&feature=channel

The guy I was thinking about. Someone posted his link in the thread.


146 posted on 02/19/2009 1:08:39 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: TADSLOS

I told you he was a RINO.


147 posted on 02/19/2009 1:09:46 PM PST by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Frankly, this kind of stuff is rather silly and could potentially turn some folks off, but I am willing to give Steele a shot. As long as he is promoting conservative values and our constitution.

Steele cannot make or break this party all by himself. We all need to get involved at the local level and rebuild from there....one person at a time.


148 posted on 02/19/2009 1:15:58 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: TADSLOS

Bravo, well said !


149 posted on 02/19/2009 1:48:48 PM PST by tomkat (at this point, tar/feathers are way too subtle)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
See post #20

There's 'hip hop' in a nutshell

If that's what Steele thinks we want in the conservative camp, he's a fool

150 posted on 02/19/2009 2:21:38 PM PST by tomkat (at this point, tar/feathers are way too subtle)
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To: ga medic

Let ‘em strain a gut trying to “attract” hip-hoppers. They mostly end up looking and sounding insincere and foolish. Real ideals and values have to come from more than some musical gimmick.


151 posted on 02/19/2009 3:43:31 PM PST by Twinkie (WHAT ABOUT SOME MSM FAIRNESS?)
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To: penelopesire

It seems to me that these Steele critics who keep bleating “RINO” have not seen nor heard him on FoxNews or subbing for Bill Bennett on his “Morning in America” show.

I’m so tired of people sniping at those who are actually doing the work and trying to accomplish something.


152 posted on 02/19/2009 4:11:33 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: wardaddy

Remember Condi ‘08 ? heh


153 posted on 02/19/2009 4:33:18 PM PST by chasio649 (no longer sick of it all ...)
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To: chasio649

really, or the Powellbots here


154 posted on 02/19/2009 5:10:48 PM PST by wardaddy (I feel like a Boer but this time white northern liberals are playing the English)
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To: Twinkie

This is my first post, although I have lurked for awhile. I am a black female. Left-leaning independent. My husband was considering voting for John McCain. He did not, because of alot of what he perceived as racism coming from the republican party during the campaign. McCain lost alot of black republicans with what was coming out of the GOP during the election.

He was not sure about Obama and never was. However, the thing about Michael Steele, who at first I was excited about, is the thought that black=hip hop. The black people I know and talk to are normal people, with the same concerns about schools, taxes, and security that white people have. My friends own small businesses, and don’t want their taxes raised. We don’t want teaching about homosexuality in our schools, or our children given access to birth control and the right to have an abortion without our permission.

What he is doing, is hurting the GOP by acting as if the party has to be something else to relate to blacks. They don’t. But this pretending is insulting and he needs to stop.

If Steele wants to make a mark, maybe he should start by LISTENING instead of talking. Because right now, the issue is that many blacks perceive the GOP as being somewhat racist. He needs to tackle it, be open-minded about that, and stop pretending that “we” talk like that because we dont!!


155 posted on 02/20/2009 11:02:43 AM PST by willing_to_understand
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To: willing_to_understand

I would ask what of a racist nature was coming out of the Republican Party during the campaign. Conservatives get a “racist” label automatically simply because they aren’t socialist/leftists. Racism cuts both ways. Another valid question in my mind would be, what was coming out of the GOP during the election that hadn’t passed through the MSM liberal filter?

I agree that just because a person’s skin is brown, it doesn’t automatically mean that they talk in ebonics and wear droopy britches. Many brown/dark people actually dress better than a lot of people with pink/olive skin.

I wouldn’t have had any problem with a black/bi-racial President, but I am a Conservative and would have supported a solid Conservative candidate of any color. “White” is not a magical color to me. Neither is my drop of Cherokee blood either. It’s all the human condition to me.

The Democrat Party has become the Socialist Party, insulting the minorities treating them like they have to be talked down to in many ways. Despite my lack of being a fan of Oprah’s (don’t have time to spend hours watching anyone on t.v.), I see her as a prime example that belies the old saw that “white racism” holds people back. I’m white, and I’ll give anyone a helping hand and a fair shake. (Oprah started out here in Tennessee and none of us redneck hicks boycotted her newscasts or demonstrated against her getting a shot at a broadcasting career that I’m aware of.) She succeeded because she was good at what she did.

With Obama and the Clintonistas running this show, you will have your taxes raised, you will have to put up with your kids being taught all about homosexuality in your schools (in the name of “equality” and by some homosexuals only too glad to recruit your handsome kids, as enthusiastically as heterosexual teachers in some quarters are recruiting them now), you will allow birth control and abortion without your permission because OBAMA & THE LIBERALS know best. It’ll be a fait accompli without even asking your permission or opinion eventually. In all of it, you will be required to furnish any support or medical treatment that their liberal policies result in.

Twinkie


156 posted on 02/20/2009 12:13:54 PM PST by Twinkie (WHAT ABOUT SOME MSM FAIRNESS?)
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To: Twinkie
I think there is perceived racism within the GOP. I am not saying it is completely accurate. Yes, there was alot of coverage of the people who crossed the line during the election. The Obama bucks, the guy with the monkey with the Obama sticker on it...and just things I have read on blogs. Some of the comments that people write that basically imply that blacks like democrats because we are lazy. I have read them here. But, I understand that I cannot make those few apply to the whole. But the issue with the GOP and blacks go way back, even to Nixon and the Southern Strategy.

GWB did a great job with the black churches here in the south, because most blacks are social conservatives. I go to a multicultural church, about 30% black and McCain lost all of the black voters who voted for GWB twice. And it wasn't because Obama. One of the ones they lost actually was banking on Kucinich. However, all the emails going around, talking about Obama’s African family, all of that stuff that made it to my inbox from my white friends, it was disturbing.

Because I listen to alot of different styles of music, and a great deal of conservative talk radio, I saw that the republican candidates were spending their money there, but not anywhere else. I noticed, because I am not in an urban hiphop box that politicians (Steele) like to put blacks. Heck, I didn't even like Obama’s ads on black radio stations. On the rock stations, his ads were about issues. On the black stations, his ads were about history.

Pat McCrory lost my vote because of it. I liked his stance on school choice specifically, but what did he do to earn my vote? The great majority of voters are uneducated and uninformed...black, white, young, old. But they have to assume black people care about issues, we care about the same issues that any other demographic does.

I am open to learning and listening...because I care about my country. But, Steele has to do a better job before they continue to lose out because he is missing the point.

157 posted on 02/20/2009 1:32:04 PM PST by willing_to_understand
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To: Ranjit
GOOD HIP HOP

No such thing.

158 posted on 02/20/2009 2:05:25 PM PST by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: willing_to_understand

Willing, I think the main problem people had with some aspects of the African connection had more to do with the corrupt leader, a cousin of Obama’s who was defeated in an election a few months ago and whose followers were sent out to kill large numbers of the people who had voted for his opponent (in very brutal ways) - until this cousin was given what he wanted - a shared Presidency of Kenya (I think it was.) Obama had gone over and campaigned for him.

I can tell you from experience that having been a “white” woman was not a ticket to Nirvana. I know harrassment and “not fitting in” due to not being in the “who’s who and what’s what and who’s got what” clique. My family moved to a new location a few hundred miles from where I grew up until I was about ten. (The new town was a snobby, clannish, elitist, cutthroat competitive, racially prejudiced little town to a large degree). At least there was in our class at school, a small group of these elite snots who made the life of anyone a misery who even accidentally got on “their” birthright turf.) I loused up and didn’t deal with their snotty behavior very well; didn’t know how to handle it, so I broke. It’s sad to be a broken teenager barely sixteen years old because you aren’t considered “good enough” to be ANYTHING of any significance in “their” class. My husband is from there, was in the “in” crowd because his family was in business there - an automatic “popularity” guarantee ‘cause those people thought - erroneously - that anyone’s family that was in business there was an automatic ticket to MONEY. So, he still doesn’t really honor too much my valid wish not to be agged on about how I “needed” to “keep on going back to those class parties and country club gatherings”. No ire against anyone, but I’ve finally had to be true to myself about all that nonsense and WHO & WHAT DO I REALLY, REALLY ENJOY?

Believe me, being a white woman has NOT been a free ride on the “happy train” in any way.

Another little secret - I’ve spent a good chunk of my life trying to get people to love me who DO NOT LOVE ME and probably aren’t capable of loving anyone. Such are not worth your time (black or white). We need to cherish and value those who DO love us and realize we aren’t missing a flipping thing by not being included in these imposters’ little cookouts and drinking parties. (Secret: They aren’t having all that much FUN as one might think in their little mutual admiration societies.) God bless ‘em, but I’m surviving without their nasty, mean nicknames bestowed on the less “important” kids in order to massage their snobby egos. Disgusting. They can party on down and play their games from now on, just not at my expense.

I don’t think there are many white people who think of black people as “monkeys”. Those few who might still be stuck in 1823 are ignorant and are missing out. No person should entertain any idea that ANYONE would for any reason call them a monkey or anything else. Rejection cuts both ways, but sometimes I think when we have been wounded, the wound is still tender and easily broken open. Man’s inhumanity to man, children can be cruel and all that jazz, but it still is easier to hurt a scarred place on anyone. (I’ve had to realize, too, that so much of what I went through with the “clique” people is OVER. I’m as good as any of them and they can just go pound sand as they’ve NEVER paid a single one of my bills.)

Twinkie


159 posted on 02/21/2009 9:25:52 PM PST by Twinkie (WHAT ABOUT SOME MSM FAIRNESS?)
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To: SolidWood

Focus on indie rock, pop/punk/emo/hardcore.
R’s should be getting Active Rock already.


160 posted on 02/21/2009 11:26:04 PM PST by truthfreedom
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