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The World-Wide Government Bubble (big picture)
Dagny D'Anconia ^ | 12 Feb 2009 | Dagny D'Anconia

Posted on 02/17/2009 8:58:56 AM PST by helpfulresearcher

As liquidity is running out and credit is drying up, many nations are in a chain reaction realizing the hot air on which their financial and political systems stand. In any case the dreams of Obama, the RINOs, and the Democrats will become painfully deflated as the era of big government comes to a close.

All bubbles come to an end when the liquidity is no longer available. After a certain point the bubble cannot be stopped by outside forces, but it does stop when the available resources are no longer available. It is like a fire that rages until the fuel is spent.

By all these measures, we have a Government Bubble that is popping.

(Excerpt) Read more at dagnyd.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bubble; crash; economy; governmentbubble; spending
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For interesting graphs as well, go to http://dagnyd.net/bubble.htm .
1 posted on 02/17/2009 8:58:57 AM PST by helpfulresearcher
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2 posted on 02/17/2009 9:01:45 AM PST by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Blog pimping, are we?

3 posted on 02/17/2009 9:02:44 AM PST by r9etb
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To: helpfulresearcher
Yes, very interesting graph

4 posted on 02/17/2009 9:03:51 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Obama destroying America...it sickens me people still think he is great and r so completely blind)
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To: helpfulresearcher
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

-~~Ludwig Von Mises

“Several brokerage houses tumbled; blue-sky investment companies formed during the happy bull market days went to smash, disclosing miserable tales of rascality; over a thousand banks caved in during 1930, as a result of marking down both of real estate and of securities; and in December occurred the largest bank failure in American financial history, the fall of the ill-named Bank of the United States in New York.”

~~"Only Yesterday: An Informal History of the 1920’s" by Fredrick Lewis Allen

5 posted on 02/17/2009 9:06:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Wow. Great read.


6 posted on 02/17/2009 9:20:28 AM PST by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: r9etb

There are several blog pimps posting all sorts of crap lately. I was under the impression this was frowned upon. Where are Moderators?


7 posted on 02/17/2009 9:21:33 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: helpfulresearcher
I remember reading The Coming Economic Earthquake by Larry Burkett around 1992. He was wrong about the timing and thus poo-pooed, but he looks pretty prescient now.
8 posted on 02/17/2009 9:25:44 AM PST by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: Islander7

I agree with your comment about blog pimps, but this was a good read.


9 posted on 02/17/2009 9:26:56 AM PST by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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I agree with your comment about blog pimps, but this was a good read....”

Yeah, I almost regretted my post. Almost.


10 posted on 02/17/2009 9:27:49 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Islander7
You know, I find it ironic how so many FReepers bitch and moan about the mainstream media yet unless a thread is started with an article from that very same mainstream media they bitch and moan some more. Myself, I WANT to see thoughts and opinions that are not being filtered by the people I came here to get away from.

Let them pimp their blogs. If the blogs are any good we'll follow them, if not we won't. That simple.

In any case, I'm happy to see these people as an alternative to the liberal MSM.

11 posted on 02/17/2009 9:36:08 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Thanks for the post.


12 posted on 02/17/2009 9:36:26 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: helpfulresearcher

“By all these measures, we have a Government Bubble that is popping.”

No, what we have is government using this crisis to form a “national security force” to deal with the perceived violence that the media will soon report on.

Then we will see the suspension of term limits for the President. Then we will see the suspension of the second amendment.

Then we will see Communism.


13 posted on 02/17/2009 9:36:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (History does repeat itself. This is Ceasar and the Roman Senate.)
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To: helpfulresearcher
Cities may become relics of the past in the new era of global communications and commerce.

Interesting idea. I still want my spaceship.
14 posted on 02/17/2009 9:38:06 AM PST by kc8ukw
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To: Obadiah

I think the dramatic increases in worker productivity staved off Burketts predictions by a couple decades. It’s here now. I read that again last month and it is still a good read if you ignore the dates.


15 posted on 02/17/2009 9:39:55 AM PST by zek157
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To: helpfulresearcher

DITTO!!!!DITTO!!!!!DITTO!!!!! Finally someone on FR posted an article that hit the nail on the head!!!! No matter who is POTUS, numbers don’t lie. The world has a finite amounts of cash on hand. China, Japan and Germany has huge reserves of cash that they sooner or later need to spend on their own economies over buying more US T Bills. The collapse of oil prices wiped out the ability of Saudi Arabia and Persian Gulf Arabs to buy US T Bills. Current bailouts put US needs at 13 trillion, and the looming collapse of commercial real estate plus credit card markets threaten to add another 7 trillion plus. Where is the feds going to get money to cover the banks from these additional losses? The answer, is nowhere because the world is tanked out. Print more dollars??? Inflation will be the result. Don’t print dollars and let the banks collapse, then social and financial chaos. Obama supporters don’t realize that they did not do their guy a favor by helping him to win in 2008, because whoever wins in 2008 faces bad and badder choices when confronted with the numbers on our debt ridden and tanked out borrowing economy. The US has to go thru a depression so prices will drop, people will stop consuming and start saving, and once the bottom is reached, people with money will buy the bad assets and the recovery can restart. But during this time period many people will be unemployed, and families will have to help family and friends. There will be crime and rioting. People must go into survival mode. The Great Depression of the 1930’s shaped the post WW2 generation, it will be interesting to see what type of society emerges from this Depression.


16 posted on 02/17/2009 9:42:06 AM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Obadiah

I recall similar predictions from others that the collapse would occur around 2001 - 2003. Timing was off, but the piper is demanding to be paid.

Great quote from the article

“....It may seem odd in this political climate to say big government will soon be a thing of the past, but it is. Like a decapitated chicken running mindlessly down the road, it just hasn’t stopped moving yet....”


17 posted on 02/17/2009 9:42:58 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Fee

Are we in a Depression? Or, are we going to have one? About two years ago when I posted that things were going to collapse, I was just about run off of Free Republic. What gives? Things are going to head up after about 3-5 years. It will be okay now.


18 posted on 02/17/2009 9:45:07 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Fee

You know deep down the government will once again take action to ‘help’ the situation.
Rather than allowing a ‘Darwinian flush’, they will continue to ‘saddle a dead horse and try to ride it’!


19 posted on 02/17/2009 9:53:25 AM PST by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: helpfulresearcher
I disagree.

Like in the Soviet Union or former DDR, these sort of schemes can live on for decades.

The belief is that as things fall apart people move away from big government. What if the government, schools, and the media proselytize that we need the opposite, more government? What if things don't fall apart right away but actually kind of do OK for some time? What if the real consequences are no “bubble” but rather market inefficiencies that are created with every subsidy, mandated loan to the unqualified, or investment is some politically motivated project? What if the real damage isn't short term but rather long term, where like in Europe (They also haven't imploded) the socialized economy simply creates a sort of economic malaise, an economy that is going nowhere fast?

I don't expect an implosion, just a slow death where our economy not unlike those in Europe becomes inefficient, unadaptive, and stagnant punching out a whopping 2% growth in good times. Where people are happy that they have stability and security, but are no longer masters of their own destiny and live with economic stagnation.

20 posted on 02/17/2009 9:54:08 AM PST by Red6
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