Posted on 02/16/2009 7:55:40 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
As the planet heats up, so do disputes between environmentalists
LAST December California approved a power line between San Diego and the Imperial Valleya spot blessed with sun, wind and geothermal energy resources. {snip} Its builders would be banned from harming burrowing owls or rattlesnakes. It is just the sort of green infrastructure project that might be expected to delight environmentalists. Their response? An appeal and a petition to the state Supreme Court.
Environmentalists have never been a well-mannered lot, says Terry Tamminen, who has advised Arnold Schwarzenegger on climate change. But they seem to be becoming more ornery. A growing fear that the environment is on the brink of collapse is making many greens less willing to compromise, even with each other. And George Bushs departure from the White House has removed a common adversary.
A more profound difference has to do with how the problem is diagnosed. {snip} The big divide is between those who fret about measurable changes in greenhouse-gas emissions and those who worry more about harm to natural habitats, whether caused by global warming or anything else. The first groupcall them the environmental nerdsincludes people like Al Gore and Mr Schwarzenegger. The second groupcall them the tree-huggersincludes the Sierra Club, the Centre for Biological Diversity and other established conservation groups.
The dispute is likely to intensify in the next few months as Washington weighs in. This week Congress reached a deal on a stimulus plan that encourages the construction of yet more power lines. Barack Obama wants to create green jobs, but he needs to create jobs above all, and quickly. Environmentalists, who know how to hold up big projects better than anybody, will not be bounced so easily. A shame: after all, the greens are winning.
(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...
The "nerds" (gorebots) want massive "green energy" projects. The "tree huggers" are tilting at the nerds' windmills. They continue to: dream the impossible dream; fight the unbeatable foe; try to reach the unreachable star.
Expect big fights, as meagabucks become available for alternate energy mega projects; through Obama's spendulus packagage.
This is an excerpt -- the whole article is a quick and illuminating (low-wattage) read.
No matter who loses, we can kick the winner's butt. :)
There is no such thing as an “environnmentalist: - there are plenty of “people-haters,” though.
Folks who’d much rather humanity would all die off.
Actual footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJUhrwS5650
Which planet are these idiots at the Economist talking about?
Aha. It’s the “save the climate” fools vs the “save the animals” fools.
I love it. Someone should send in the “reduce the population” fools to take care of both of them.
LOL. That scenario would make a great action flick.
Most people (particularly in the MSM) fail to realize that the first true conservationists were hunters and outdoorsmen. I guess that such "irrelevant data" would just cloud the issue.
Good point! Support Ducks Unlimited.
Ping.
You might find this interesting — another front opening up in the AGW wars.
Screw them all. Let them sit in the dark.
You got it. Outdoorsmen; hunters, fishermen, through license fees and special taxes on guns, ammo, and fishing tackle, pump more money into protecting the enviroment than all the dreadlock, beany cap, down coat, wearing, "Greenie" eviro types could ever hope to muster.
Even they've become Tree huggers, buying up land and posting no hunting bird sanctuaries on the few scare public hunting areas left.
Go nuclear, Save the Raptors : (
http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2008/07/24/new-data-shows-bird-kills-up-in-altamont/
http://www.windaction.org/documents/13936
http://www.nationalwind.org/publications/wildlife/avian98/03-Hunt-Golden_Eagles.pdf
http://www.wind-works.org/articles/NRELBirdReport04.html
Bird kills, aesthetic impact, maddening noise — if wind power were subjected to the type of environmental review that oil, gas, coal, hydro, or nuclear projects have to face; Don Quixote could retire.
That is for sure a fact in Colorado. There would be no money spent on conservation if it weren’t for hunters and fishermen buying licenses, camp ground fees, etc...
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