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Rumsfeld prosecution could set precedent (Hurl-worthy histrionics)
The Japan Times ^ | February 17, 2009 | Cesar Chelala, M.D., Ph.D.

Posted on 02/16/2009 5:12:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

NEW YORK — There is now enough evidence to try former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes, Manfred Nowak, the U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture, recently told "Frontal 21," a German television program.

Nowak's statement confirms what human rights and legal organizations have been saying for several years, and spotlights one of the Bush administration's most controversial decisions regarding the use of torture.

Nowak's statement follows a bipartisan Senate Arms Services Committee investigation made public in December. In scathing and unequivocal terms, the investigation revealed that Rumsfeld and other high-ranking administration officials, including former National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, bore major responsibility for detainee abuse by American troops at Abu Ghraib in Iraq; Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; and other military detention centers.

The abuse was not the result of only a few soldiers acting on their own, but the consequence of interrogation policies approved by Rumsfeld and other top officials who "conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees."

On Dec. 2, 2002, following a request by Guantanamo officials that additional techniques beyond those in the U.S. Army field manual be approved for use, Rumsfeld authorized new interrogation policies for Guantanamo, including placing prisoners in "stress positions," hooding detainees for 20-hour interrogations, exploiting phobias to induce stress, sensory deprivation, and isolation. These techniques were later used in Afghanistan and Iraq. Complaints of abuses at Guantanamo by FBI officials to the Defense Department in December 2002 were disregarded.

According to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), in January of 2003 senior officers of the Judge Advocate General's office repeatedly objected to interrogation techniques used at Guantanamo, but "Pentagon officials 'didn't think this was a big deal, so they just ignored the JAGs.' "

During this period, Rumsfeld designated a "Working Group" to assess legal, policy and operational issues for detainee interrogation in the "war on terrorism." In April 2003, the Working Group issued its final report recommending 35 interrogation techniques to Rumsfeld, who recommended 24 of the 35, including dietary and environmental manipulation, sleep interruption and isolation.

One month later, the Red Cross reported 200 cases of alleged detainee abuse of prisoners in U.S. custody in Iraq to the U.S. Central Command. Meanwhile, the FBI reiterated its objections to the Guantanamo base commander.

In August 2003, Rumsfeld sent the Guantanamo commander to Iraq to "GITMO-ize" Iraqi detention facilities, promoting wide-scale deployment of more aggressive interrogation techniques in Iraq.

In February 2004, Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba reported that "systematic" and "sadistic, blatant and wanton criminal abuses" were taking place at Abu Ghraib.

In May 2006, the U.N. Committee against Torture issued a strong and thorough critique of the U.S. record on torture. The U.N. assessment was confirmed by Maj. Gen. Taguba who in June 2008 stated, "After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," and called for those responsible to be held to account.

In December 2006, the ACLU and Human Rights First argued before a federal court that Rumsfeld should be held accountable for the torture and abuse of detainees in U.S. military custody. Retired military officers and military legal experts filed a legal brief in support of the lawsuit. In March 2007, Chief Judge Thomas A. Hogan of the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia dismissed the case.

The Center for Constitutional Rights in New York, the International Federation for Human Rights, and the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights have filed three cases against Rumsfeld and others in Germany and France for the alleged torture of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo and at secret sites. They did so under universal jurisdiction laws that would let those countries indict U.S. officials for torture if the United States does not fulfill its obligation.

How the Obama administration handles this issue will signal its degree of commitment to the human rights principles it has promised to uphold.

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Cesar Chelala, M.D. and Ph.D., is a cowinner of the Overseas Press Club of America award for an article on human rights.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agenda; bush; democrats; donaldrumsfeld; guantanamo; iraq; obama; wot
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Is the Constitution now a suicide pact?
1 posted on 02/16/2009 5:12:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah, set a precedent for a damn shooting war.

These fascist bastards are just seeing how far We The People can be pushed.
2 posted on 02/16/2009 5:14:02 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are witnessing the deconstruction of America.


3 posted on 02/16/2009 5:15:39 PM PST by R_Kangel (`.`)
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If another country wants to try American leaders, then I vote we drop a thermal-nuclear calling card in their lap.
4 posted on 02/16/2009 5:15:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say we try the UN.


5 posted on 02/16/2009 5:15:44 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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"Is the Constitution now a suicide pact?"

In the hands of the Left, it is a weapon against civilization.

When, by the way, are the war crimes tribunals against Al Queda, the Taliban, Hamas, the PRC, the KGB, Robert Mugabe, Fidel Castro, etc?

Just wonderin'.

6 posted on 02/16/2009 5:16:30 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: BenLurkin

not with this administration....


7 posted on 02/16/2009 5:16:43 PM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

relax peeps. nothing gonna happen. obama got enough problems he wont want to whack this hornet nest


8 posted on 02/16/2009 5:17:04 PM PST by beebuster2000
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I wish it would happen. Maybe some ex-Bush person might have the guts to drop the intel about the Kenyan-born Islamist and his Mombassa birth.

It would also be a bridge too far for the poublic.


9 posted on 02/16/2009 5:20:36 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am well past sick of this $hit.


10 posted on 02/16/2009 5:22:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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Is the Constitution now a suicide pact?

The American Criminal Liars Union and certain members of the Congress have turned it into that years ago. It was a good run for 230+ years.
11 posted on 02/16/2009 5:22:12 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; randomhero97; R_Kangel; ChicagahAl; BenLurkin; TV Dinners

I’m thinking more and more like an isolationsist. Let the world go to ____________ and let’s save ourselves. We would certainly have to wean off foreign oil. When the rest of the world rediscovers how good the USA is we might re-consider helping again. Can you imagine world markets if America withdrew?


12 posted on 02/16/2009 5:22:25 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

the U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture


I wonder how much this guy makes? Probably $200K+ and gets to travel all over the world to run his mouth. No doubt most of his salary comes from the US taxpayer.


13 posted on 02/16/2009 5:24:24 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: DBCJR

That would work if we were still an agriculture and manufacturing powerhouse. Not so much anymore. You can think your globalist traitors for that.


14 posted on 02/16/2009 5:24:48 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Frantzie

Yep, I want to see them go for it all, Fairness Doctrine, repeal of the 2nd, prosecute Rumsfeld. The fact is, leftists are like sharks that have just tasted blood, they can’t help themselves but try and grab more power, it is all they care about and they will risk all just to have a little more. Bring it on pukes, it will be fun watching you crash and burn.


15 posted on 02/16/2009 5:25:20 PM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The coup complete, the trials and elimination of the opposition begins. The left is begining the purge.

The hour is late and things are going to go south with increasing speed.


16 posted on 02/16/2009 5:25:29 PM PST by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone needs to tell the UN and Euro-weenie scumbags in Brussels that they can try our officials and soldiers when — and only when — we get to try all the UN, French and Russian weasels who got rich off the UN Oil-for-Food scam, as well as all the UN “peacekeepers” who raped women and young girls in Africa. That’s for starters.


17 posted on 02/16/2009 5:30:00 PM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

someone should look deeply into the backgrounds of those who are pushing this...


18 posted on 02/16/2009 5:30:45 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: DBCJR

The thing that should be done, but won’t, is that a representative of the United States government had the UN Secretary General a small note giving the entire UN 24 hours to grab what they can and sail their slimy asses to Europe where they can set up shop.

Then send them a bill for 64 years of use of that real estate and include penalties and interest.


19 posted on 02/16/2009 5:31:40 PM PST by MissouriConservative (If there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.)
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European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights

Last I looked, our Constitution did not belong to Europe. I hate the international Left with a rare passion.

20 posted on 02/16/2009 5:32:17 PM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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