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Law Profs, Former Judges, Attorneys Urge Major Reforms for Supreme Court (Barry to Pack the Court)
National; Law Journal ^ | February 12, 2009 | Marcia Coyle

Posted on 02/12/2009 6:55:32 AM PST by frithguild

A group of 33 law professors, former state supreme court justices and practitioners are urging the attorney general and the heads of the Senate and House judiciary committees to consider four changes in the operation of the U.S. Supreme Court, including regular appointment of justices and the involvement of appellate judges in the selection of cases to be decided on the merits.

The group sent the proposals in draft legislative form and noted that all of its members do not support all of the proposals, but are "unanimous" that it is time for Congress to reconsider the law applicable to the Supreme Court, "a subject it appears not to have seriously considered for at least 70 years."

The proposals grew out conversations among the group's members over a period of years, said professor Paul Carrington of Duke Law School.

Although the members are not unanimous on all four proposals, Carrington added, "All of them have one background thought -- the Supreme Court has gotten a little too big for its britches and it would be good for Congress to enact a law or two that says, 'You're part of an enterprise that we have some power over.' "

In its letter to the public officials, the group notes that Congress has given "scant attention" to the role and structure of the third branch since the "Court-packing" proposal of 1937.

"With rare exception, it has wisely entrusted the law governing that Branch to the Judicial Conference of the United States that it established in 1922," the letter states. "But given its inherent limitations, the Conference has been unable to consider issues arising from the work of the Supreme Court. From time to time, the other branches of the federal government need to reconsider how the judicial branch has evolved, and adapt it to changed circumstances."

The four proposals would do the following:

First, regular biennial appointments of new justices selected by the president and Senate in order to assure timely rotation within the membership of the Court. If an appointment results in more than nine justices, the nine who are junior in time of service would sit to decide each appeal certified for decision on the merits. The proposal also would create senior justices. This proposal was signed by 30 of the 33 members -- the greatest support.

"Our proposal is not a term limit but a system of rotation to assure some regularity of change in the composition of the court," the proposal explains. "If necessary to meet the constitutional objection, the allocation and assignment of duties when there are more than nine active justices could be left for the Justices themselves to resolve by a rule of court."

Second, the proposal states that it would be the duty of the chief justice to advise a justice who can no longer perform his or her duties to retire and report that to the Judicial Conference of the United States. The Judicial Conference then would be required to advise the chief judges of the federal circuits of the report. If a majority of those judges find substantial evidence of disability, they must report that finding to the House Judiciary Committee.

Third, this proposal would limit the term of a chief justice to seven years, subject to automatic extension until the president is authorized to appoint a new justice or until resolution of any pending impeachment proceeding over which the chief justice is needed to preside.

"Over time, the powers and responsibilities of that office have been extended into numerous other political, administrative, and non-judicial roles calling for a measure of special accountability for the justice holding office as Chief," the group explains.

Fourth, under this proposal, a body of experienced appellate judges would have the power to designate a substantial number of cases that the high court would then be required to decide on their merits. The justices could add to that number. This proposal was signed by 19 members of the group -- the least amount of support among the four proposals.

"This would be intended to correct the steady shrinkage of the docket and engage the Supreme Court's attention on matters selected by persons suitably independent of the Justices and their personal or professional concerns," the proposal states. "It would also correct a visible tendency of the justices to place greater reliance on their staffs, a practice increasingly replicated at all levels of the judicial system."

Veteran Supreme Court litigator Alan Morrison of American University Washington College of Law said, "I very much support the regularization of appointments and the proposal on the inability to perform. I think the notion about the certiorari process is worthwhile. I'm in favor of those issues being discussed."

Both Morrison and Carrington said some of these ideas have been the subject of recommendations for a number of years by prominent advisory committees.

"It's not a subject that has a constituency," said Carrington. "Judges pretty much like things the way they are, although in private, some will say they'd sign on to all four of the proposals."

Carrington said the "easiest" proposal to endorse and adopt is the one on disability of a justice. "It's hard to make an argument against calling attention to the fact that some justice is totally disabled. What's the answer to that?"

The most "complicated" proposal in some ways, he suggested, involves the chief justice. "Somewhere along the way the chief justice has acquired more and more political and administrative responsibilities," he said. "There's a pretty good argument that the job ought to be accountable to someone."

Carrington said he hopes one of the congressional committees would hold a hearing on the proposals.

"Given the history of it, nothing may happen, but, gosh darn it, they do need to think about it," he added. "I think all four proposals are reasonable and not reckless."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: courtpacking
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This kind of rotation system will allow the first administration to make all of the initial appointments. Roe will never be overturned.
1 posted on 02/12/2009 6:55:32 AM PST by frithguild
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To: holdonnow

Pinging the “Great One” for his immediate attention, review, and hard-hitting commentary, as appropriate for a stinkbomb like this!


2 posted on 02/12/2009 7:00:34 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: frithguild

...the Constitution needs to be adjusted for Socialistic values, it’s that simple.


3 posted on 02/12/2009 7:00:39 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: frithguild

I though we already figured out how we wanted to do this over 200 years ago.


4 posted on 02/12/2009 7:00:44 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: frithguild
Roe will never be overturned.

Oh yes it will. Possibly at Appomatox.

5 posted on 02/12/2009 7:04:53 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: frithguild
First, regular biennial appointments of new justices selected by the president and Senate in order to assure timely rotation within the membership of the Court. If an appointment results in more than nine justices, the nine who are junior in time of service would sit to decide each appeal certified for decision on the merits.

FDR's attempt to pack the SCOTUS is being tried again?

6 posted on 02/12/2009 7:06:09 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Stimulate this Obama!)
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To: frithguild

These people have no shame.

To them, the Constitution is just an obstacle to manipulate or cleverly avoid through sophistic argument.

The idea that the concept of “Senior Justices” is consistent with the intent of life tenure is ludicrous.

I may even be in agreement that we should look at limited terms, given that Judges have just become political hacks like everyone else anyway ... but do it the right way, by amending the Constitution.


7 posted on 02/12/2009 7:07:04 AM PST by dinoparty
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...it would be good for Congress to enact a law or two that says, 'You're part of an enterprise that we have some power over.' "

This part bothers me big time. Am I reading this wrong?

8 posted on 02/12/2009 7:10:23 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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...professor Paul Carrington of Duke Law School... ..."ran—and lost—in the July 20 Democratic primaries for District 18 of the North Carolina State Senate."

http://paulcarrington.com/Chronicle%20-August.htm

9 posted on 02/12/2009 7:10:39 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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Roe will never be overturned.

Though Roe is an important issue ... it would be the least of our worries if Zero gets his way

10 posted on 02/12/2009 7:12:34 AM PST by clamper1797 (Obambi ... Karl Marx in black face)
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To: frithguild
Albany County (Wyoming) Committee to Elect Gail McGee, 1958

Precinct Captain, Democratic Party of Monroe County, Indiana, 1960-62

Precinct Captain, Franklin County (Ohio) Democratic Party, 1964 Elected Trustee, Ann Arbor Board of Education, 1970-73

Michigan Muskie for President Committee 1972

Elected Delegate, Democratic Party of Washtenaw County, 1972

Secretary, North Carolina Fair Bargain Committee, 1999-2001 (re arbitration law)

Secretary, North Carolina Committee on Judicial Election Campaigns, 2000

Member Democracy North Carolina, 2000-

Legislative Committee, North Carolina Academy of Trial Lawyers, 2001-2008

Now North Carolina Advocates for Justice, 2008-

Advocacy Council, North Carolina AARP, 2003-

North Carolina Bar Association Committee on Judicial Independence (2003-

Candidate, North Carolina Senate District 18, 2004

Member, Durham People's Alliance, 2004-

Durham County Representative, Democratic State Convention 2006

Precinct Chair, Democratic Party, Durham County,

http://paulcarrington.com/Political%20Activity.htm

11 posted on 02/12/2009 7:13:15 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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“People get the government they deserve.” Joseph deMaistre.

And when people become THIS freaking STUPID and inattentive to their freedoms, THIS is the PRESIDENT they deserve.


12 posted on 02/12/2009 7:13:43 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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I though we already figured out how we wanted to do this over 200 years ago.

Much like the 10 Commandments, the Constitution is OLD and IRRELEVANT.

Things only apply to our lifetimes if they feel right at this moment.

13 posted on 02/12/2009 7:22:42 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

you’re not alone...that part bothers me too.

If he had said “balance of power” or “more well-defined limitation of power” that could be agreed with...but “power over”...no, sorry buddy.


14 posted on 02/12/2009 7:25:22 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: frithguild
"With rare exception, it has wisely entrusted the law governing that Branch to the Judicial Conference of the United States that it established in 1922," the letter states. "But given its inherent limitations, the Conference has been unable to consider issues arising from the work of the Supreme Court. From time to time, the other branches of the federal government need to reconsider how the judicial branch has evolved, and adapt it to changed circumstances."

I don't like the sound of this.

The article doesn't list the names of the 33 law professors. I'd like to know who was on that list.

15 posted on 02/12/2009 7:26:20 AM PST by thecodont
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To: frithguild

Unconstitutional proposals..
Supreme court appointments are specific and outlined as procedural. There was never a rotation of the courts intended to satisfy changing administrations. The court maintains constitutional stability long beyond presidential cycles. The court should not change just because an administration changes. That leaves too much open to manipulation.


16 posted on 02/12/2009 7:26:38 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: frithguild

Didn’t FDR try this?


17 posted on 02/12/2009 7:29:16 AM PST by dawn53
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To: frithguild

“Over time, the powers and responsibilities of that office have been extended into numerous other political, administrative, and non-judicial roles calling for a measure of special accountability for the justice holding office as Chief,” the group explains.”

This is a very dangerous proposal. We don’t want bureaucrats deciding our medical treatments. We definitely don’t want bureaucrats measuring “accountability” and fairness of court rulings. Nor do we want congress overturning judicial decisions without due process. Especially in the role of Constututional Law and the Bill of Rights.


18 posted on 02/12/2009 7:31:22 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: frithguild
"Third, this proposal would limit the term of a chief justice to seven years,".........."There's a pretty good argument that the job ought to be accountable to someone."

I doubt the liberals who dreamed up those proposals thought they had merit as long as liberals like Warren were Chief Justice. I imagine they only became "good" ideas after Rhenquist and Roberts were appointed.

The far left now has complete control of the Executive and Congressional branches, and they are one vote away from total control of the Judiciary branch. If they get control of that branch as well, the US will be transformed into a carbon copy of socialist western Europe before the Magic Kenyan's first term is over. FDR tried this same trick of packing the Court with liberal Justices in the 1930s but failed to get it done.

The next proposal we see will probably be repeal of the 22nd amendment that limits a president to 2-terms. If there was no Constitutional term limit to stop him, the Magic Kenyan could hold that office for another 30 years or more once the libs get total control of the election process from start to finish.

19 posted on 02/12/2009 7:40:48 AM PST by epow (If God is your co-pilot, swap seats.)
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To: frithguild

Wouldn’t these require a constitutional amendment? I don’t think Congress has the power to do this unilaterally. Not legally, anyway.


20 posted on 02/12/2009 7:42:27 AM PST by chesley (A pox on both their houses. I've voted for my last RINO.)
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