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Wall Street: Thumbs Down on Nailout (Thanks, Timmy!)
money.cnn.com ^ | February 10, 2009: 4:16 PM ET | Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer

Posted on 02/10/2009 1:30:46 PM PST by kellynla

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks slumped Tuesday, with the Dow industrials ending at a 3-month low, as the government's bank rescue plan failed to reassure investors burned by the 14-month old recession.

Treasury prices rallied, lowering the corresponding yields, and the dollar slipped versus other major currencies.

The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost 382 points, or 4.6%, according to early tallies. The Dow had lost as much as 422 points in the afternoon, touching its lowest point since Nov. 21, considered by many experts to have been the low of the bear market.

The Standard & Poor's 500 (SPX) index lost 43 points, or 4.9%. The Nasdaq composite (COMP) lost 66 points, or 4.2%.

The TARP announcement "was a huge disappointment," said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at RBS Greenwich Capital. "There's been an incredible buildup for weeks and then they release a plan that has little in the way of details."

Stocks slipped leading into Geithner's late-morning speech and accelerated after he finished outlining the plan. He's providing more details this afternoon in a congressional hearing.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banking; bhodjia; bhotreasury; geithner; liberalism; scam; socialism; wallstreet
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"However, he did not put a price tag on the new plan?"

How convenient...

"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P.J.O'Rourke

1 posted on 02/10/2009 1:30:46 PM PST by kellynla
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2 posted on 02/10/2009 1:32:09 PM PST by evets (beer)
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Gee, I wonder why Wall Street doesn’t trust a Sec of Treasury that found Turbo Tax to complicated to understand and use effectively.....

(sarcasm setting: Extremely HIGH)


3 posted on 02/10/2009 1:32:52 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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You can fool people but you can’t fool money.


4 posted on 02/10/2009 1:43:15 PM PST by henkster (When I was young I was told anyone could be President. Now I believe it.)
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Sen. DeMint nailed Timmy down on “how” we're gonna get this money...
and Timmy had to admit “borrow it”

With double digit inflation, interest rates & unemployment by 2012;
Hussein will be another Jimmy Carter...”one & done!”

5 posted on 02/10/2009 1:50:24 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: henkster

Well stated.


6 posted on 02/10/2009 1:52:14 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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7 posted on 02/10/2009 1:52:55 PM PST by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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Well, it’s almost 5PM, and I’m listening to the CNBC talking heads now saying how nicely the market handled Geithner’s and Obama’s comments on the economy, stimulus, etc. After all, the markets were only down about 4.5%.

Can these guys spin any faster for the wonderful 0-Man?


8 posted on 02/10/2009 2:00:38 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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Gee, I wonder why Wall Street doesn’t trust a Sec of Treasury that found Turbo Tax to complicated to understand and use effectively.....



It must have been that 'Special Edition' he used.
9 posted on 02/10/2009 2:01:24 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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Thats very funny!


10 posted on 02/10/2009 2:02:21 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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burned by the 14-month old recession

More like six months recession. The GDP grew very well in the first two quaters of 2008.

11 posted on 02/10/2009 2:02:40 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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>> “There’s been an incredible buildup for weeks and then they release a plan that has little in the way of details.”

Geithner doesn’t know what to do. He doesn’t know, any more than Paulson did, how to “fix” the problem.

That’s because “fix” is defined as “magically wipe away the problem”. The only real fix is to let the disease run its course and the markets find the way back. But that’s tough medicine to swallow, and not acceptable to the powers that be (Dem OR Pub).

Yet the pressure is enormous — not only to “do the right thing” but to “fix it NOW”.

Geithner is screwed. So is Bambi.


12 posted on 02/10/2009 2:03:49 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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>> Gee, I wonder why Wall Street doesn’t trust a Sec of Treasury that found Turbo Tax to complicated to understand and use effectively.....

I know that’s sarcasm.

Still, there seems to persist the question “is Geithner dumb, or is he crooked?”

Ever used TurboTax to report self employment income? Or for that matter, ANY kind of 1099 income more complex than interest or dividends?

I have.

It is nearly impossible for even a bookkeeping “dim bulb” to screw up like Geithner did. It is TOTALLY impossible for a man of Geithner’s stature to make an “oversight” or an “honest mistake”.

Geithner is a tax cheat. There is no question in my mind. None whatsoever.


13 posted on 02/10/2009 2:09:13 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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The Dow had lost as much as 422 points in the afternoon, touching its lowest point since Nov. 21, considered by many experts to have been the low of the bear market.

Looks like they need some better experts.

14 posted on 02/10/2009 2:10:03 PM PST by Ken H
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I heard some of the CNBC folks blame the fall on "lack of specifics". See, the plan is brilliant, it's just that we needed "specifics".
15 posted on 02/10/2009 2:13:29 PM PST by Ken H
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“Well, it’s almost 5PM, and I’m listening to the CNBC talking heads now saying how nicely the market handled Geithner’s and Obama’s comments on the economy, stimulus, etc. After all, the markets were only down about 4.5%.

Can these guys spin any faster for the wonderful 0-Man?”

N othing
B ut
C rap

NBC, MSNBC & CNBC have about as much credibility as a screen door on a submarine.

16 posted on 02/10/2009 3:18:33 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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Atlas Puked...
17 posted on 02/10/2009 3:46:04 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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should send that to Ex DC Mayor Marion Berry. Seems as though he is going up the river for failing to file his taxes for eight of the last nine years. Democrats, ya can’t live with em, ya can’t kill em.....


18 posted on 02/10/2009 3:57:40 PM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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“should send that to Ex DC Mayor Marion Berry. Seems as though he is going up the river for failing to file his taxes for eight of the last nine years?”

is he really? I didn’t know that...


19 posted on 02/10/2009 4:57:29 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Nervous Tick

You’re absolutely right—Geitner is a tax cheat. IMO he is also a dumb tax cheat. He also may be an ideological as well as dumb tax cheat. Why else can he not just stand up and say there is nothing about this recession that is unique (other than the dems, their handlers and their sycophants creating it out of whole cloth) to any other recession. In fact, compared to some recent recessions it is really rather mild as far as John Q. Public is concerned. Therefore, the solution to the mess is to let the market correct the problems and move on. Ideology trumps history, facts and common sense every time.


20 posted on 02/10/2009 5:00:16 PM PST by dools007
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