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Bush-era offshore drilling plan is set aside for energy
MSNBC.COM ^ | 2/10/09 | msnbc.com staff

Posted on 02/10/2009 11:18:41 AM PST by Sleeping Freeper

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration on Tuesday overturned another Bush-era energy policy, announcing it was setting aside a draft plan to allow drilling off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts.

"To establish an orderly process that allows us to make wise decisions based on sound information, we need to set aside" the plan "and create our own timeline," Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced in a statement.

Environmentalists and some tourism-dependent coastal states oppose the drilling, citing the potential for spills and urging an emphasis on renewable energy instead. Energy companies counter that drilling has become safer over the years and that royalties from any finds would be in the billions of dollars.

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Whatever happened to energy independence?
1 posted on 02/10/2009 11:18:41 AM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Sleeping Freeper

The market started dropping again right after this announcement.


2 posted on 02/10/2009 11:20:03 AM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Sleeping Freeper

It was never a viable concept in the first place. There is no nation on this planet thats industrialized that is ‘energy independent’ and there never will be.

Its a fools errand talking point.


3 posted on 02/10/2009 11:20:34 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Oil prices are so low now, that it doesn't matter. Even if we auctioned off the leases to drill in these places today, no oil company would start drilling for a long time. And we probably wouldn't get much money for the leases, either.

In this case, Obama is probably right. We're better off waiting a few years.

4 posted on 02/10/2009 11:21:23 AM PST by curiosity
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To: Sleeping Freeper

obama-gasoline is risng steadily- up 50 cents a gallon since obama took office

no one is asking why or screaming windfall profits


5 posted on 02/10/2009 11:22:15 AM PST by silverleaf ("Men are not angered by mere misfortune but by misfortune conceived as injury" - Screwtape)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

This means the return of $4.00 a gallon gasoline and even higher increases. I’m sure the folks in the defunct RV industry in Elkhart, IN, are happy that there is now no chance of the RV industry ever returning because of this.


6 posted on 02/10/2009 11:22:48 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Between this and the Utah lease cancellations, expect gas to rise over the $2 per gallon mark on average.


7 posted on 02/10/2009 11:23:14 AM PST by edpc
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Whatever happened to energy independence?

That was an answer for another question.

Try to keep your eye on the shell with the pea inside, will you?

8 posted on 02/10/2009 11:23:51 AM PST by skeeter
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To: GreyFriar

Michael Steele should restart “Drill baby drill.


9 posted on 02/10/2009 11:24:25 AM PST by BARLF
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To: Sleeping Freeper
At this rate, I think Obama may decide to reduce our need for urban renewal projects by nuking a dozen US cities.

He's got to be destroying us on purpose.

10 posted on 02/10/2009 11:24:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Whatever happened to energy independence?

Wind and solar! Where have you been. The messiah has been telling us this was our promised land to energy independence for a while now.

We don't need filthy fossil fuel from our own country to become energy independent.

(Sarcasm/Cynicism)

11 posted on 02/10/2009 11:25:06 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

My head is spinning. This is like a bad movie. It really seems like there is a concerted effort to wreck our economy.


12 posted on 02/10/2009 11:26:13 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

Change we can believe in! God help us.


13 posted on 02/10/2009 11:27:17 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (Sometimes, I guess there's just not enough bags of popcorn.)
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To: curiosity
Every mine,factory or well takes time to build,develop and become productive.

The longer we wait,the further into the future the productive date!

based on the evidence so far,if Obama speaks,he's probably wrong.

14 posted on 02/10/2009 11:27:36 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Ken Salazar. Isn’t he the guy who said he wanted $8.00/gallon gas to make alternate energy pay?


15 posted on 02/10/2009 11:28:25 AM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Badeye

How about we give it a try!!!!


16 posted on 02/10/2009 11:29:08 AM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Sleeping Freeper

On the plus side, he’s certainly giving future genuine conservative candidates a lot of ammo to campaign upon (probably encoded ammo at that).


17 posted on 02/10/2009 11:30:45 AM PST by edpc
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To: silverleaf
no one is asking why or screaming windfall profits

Because the media are not making an issue of it and so people don't know about it. Yes, I'm saying they're too stupid to notice the price they're paying at the pump. Think about it and you'll know I'm right: people only really start complaining about the price of gas after the MSM run stories about it. Up to that point you hear very little complaining.

18 posted on 02/10/2009 11:30:55 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
“To establish an orderly process that allows us to make wise decisions based on sound information, we need to set aside” the plan...”

Of course, Obammie the Commie didn't set aside anything, except concern for America and liberty, to RUSH his Porkulis package through.

19 posted on 02/10/2009 11:30:56 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Free Market: the ultimate community event.)
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To: Dapper 26

We have. Even before the insane Santa Barbara oil spill motivated ban on off shore drilling, we still had to import.


20 posted on 02/10/2009 11:31:19 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
unfricking believable, can't these IDIOTS go ONE day with out ruining something
21 posted on 02/10/2009 11:32:00 AM PST by peace with honor
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To: KansasGirl

I just cant take this anymore, how can our government keep doing things that will inevitably kill the USA?! The majority of our party elected officials are apparently playing for the other team. What can we do when votes and phone calls don’t work anymore?


22 posted on 02/10/2009 11:34:00 AM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: Badeye
There is no nation on this planet thats industrialized that is ‘energy independent’ and there never will be.

How about Alaska? Do states counts?

23 posted on 02/10/2009 11:34:27 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Badeye
It was never a viable concept in the first place. There is no nation on this planet thats industrialized that is ‘energy independent’ and there never will be.

I understand what you are saying. In a free market, goods go to the highest bidder or the bidder that garnishes the largest profits for the producer.

If restrictions were removed and the cost to drill, refine, ship and sell petroleum were left to free market demand here in the US, then American companies would be able to sell oil to America for the largest profit and lowest price because of lower delivery and refining costs. Shipping and import/export costs are a factor.

The highest bidder would still be subject to the market prices. But a large infusion of supply into the market with lower costs of doing business would indeed lower the price and enable American "Big Oil" to make "obscene" profits by doing business mainly with American businesses and consumers. Higher supply spurred by American "exploitation" of our protected ice fields and ocean would add a significant boost to the world supply and tip the balance of OPEC's influence. The Middle East might actually have to start competing for customers instead of sharing them.

I expect monopolies would flourish as the "fat cats" got rich while improving the standards of living for all Americans. Then we would have to go back and enact reform to help the little guy compete.

This fantasy assumes that environuts and anti-capitolists did not exist or were relegated to irrelevance.

24 posted on 02/10/2009 11:34:40 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Ken Salazar is a God Dam Communist !! His judgment on this issue is just that Anything to hurt America he is in favor of otherwise this bastard would be whole heartily encouraging American Oil production.


25 posted on 02/10/2009 11:35:15 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: thackney

Is a ‘state’ a ‘nation’?

And Alaska has to import refined gasoline, heating oil, kerosene.


26 posted on 02/10/2009 11:35:21 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: KansasGirl
It really seems like there is a concerted effort to wreck our economy.

I've pondered that one, and truly believe liberals and their ilk intentionally sabotage the system to "prove" the errors of our flawed capitalistic/free-market ways and usher in the great savior of socialism. You couldn't run our country into the ground faster than these clowns if it was your explicitly stated goal.
27 posted on 02/10/2009 11:35:52 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Just yesterday this fake Shaman traveled to Elkhart, where the economy is dominated by manufacturers of motor homes, to seek support.

Today, he has his people put the kibash on a plan to drill for more oil, to increase supply.

This clown says anything that sounds good at the moment, to that particular audience.


28 posted on 02/10/2009 11:35:59 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Tenacious 1

All true. But would that end our largest supplier of crude oil, CANADA, from selling us oil?

Nope.

We’re on the same page as to what should be done.


29 posted on 02/10/2009 11:36:41 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: thackney

If so, Texas counts, too.


30 posted on 02/10/2009 11:37:12 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: hoosierham

The longer we wait,the further into the future the productive date!”

This is the same group that whined thru the campaigns that it will take 10 years to actually see oil flow—
so they are putting us further and further back behind the 8 ball.

Gas here in N Nevada is already over $2 a gallon, and has risen steadily since Jan 20==coronation day for the empty suit with no birth certificate.

Even beer has a “Born On Date”.


31 posted on 02/10/2009 11:38:03 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: dashing doofus

Obama just stuck a knife in the back every unemployed worker in Elkhart and flipped them the finger on their way to the ground.


32 posted on 02/10/2009 11:38:36 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: curiosity

are you this clueless or a lefty ?
the reason WHY oil prices dropped under Bush over the summer was the fact Pres Bush made these leases available for exploration !!!


33 posted on 02/10/2009 11:39:26 AM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: Badeye

2006 Energy Balance for Norway
http://www.iea.org/Textbase/stats/balancetable.asp?COUNTRY_CODE=NO

2006 Energy Balance for Denmark
http://www.iea.org/Textbase/stats/balancetable.asp?COUNTRY_CODE=DK

2006 Energy Balance for Saudi Arabia
http://www.iea.org/Textbase/stats/balancetable.asp?COUNTRY_CODE=SA

2006 Energy Balance for Russian Federation
http://www.iea.org/Textbase/stats/balancetable.asp?COUNTRY_CODE=RU


34 posted on 02/10/2009 11:41:30 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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And Alaska has to import refined gasoline, heating oil, kerosene

Alaska has six refineries. It produces more than it consumes.

35 posted on 02/10/2009 11:42:28 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I know.


36 posted on 02/10/2009 11:42:56 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Thanks idiot voters who voted Democrat or third party or stayed home.


37 posted on 02/10/2009 11:43:27 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

OK, so we can all car pool during the Revolution.


38 posted on 02/10/2009 11:44:01 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: GreyFriar
That's what Obama went to Elkhart for ~ to let the whole crowd from South Bend to Goshen know that "it's time to move baby".

They must not have listened closely though.

What I'd like to know, and I'm sure the Secret Service would be interested in knowing there's a question on this, is why would anyone on the President's staff arrange for him to visit that particular town at this particular time.

The things the Democrats have campaigned against for the last 8 years are all located in that area and were, until recently, the industrial base.

The Democrats don't like the FEMA trailers, nor customized SUVs, nor Hummers, nor large Executor type travel buses, nor.... well, you get the idea. Whatever these guys make, from educated Catholics to giant motor vehicles, the Democrats are against it.

It's a wonder they didn't have some of the local Democrat party people trying to rush the stage and get him.

39 posted on 02/10/2009 11:49:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Badeye
There is no nation on this planet thats industrialized that is ‘energy independent’

This may be true but there is no reason for us to tie our economic hands behind our back in the name of the environment. Obama's edict weakens our country and helps us remain dependent on our enemies. This man is a disaster for this country.

40 posted on 02/10/2009 11:49:32 AM PST by mort56
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To: Badeye

So why do you claim they have to import?

They have refinery capacity of about 137 million barrels per year and consume about 60 million barrels per year of refined products. Even with an extremely low operating capacity margin they produce that amount easily. Which is why they are a net exporter.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/state_energy_profiles.cfm?sid=AK


41 posted on 02/10/2009 11:50:21 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Next up - destroy the coal industry, freeze Yuca mountain (stop ane new resurgence of Nukes), and let the electric rates seek their own new levels. The Gumnint will spend billions for Windmills, Solar, and other “GREEN” power - but the need for the base plants will not go away since none of these sources work 24x7. They can NEVER be cost effective alternatives.
42 posted on 02/10/2009 11:53:43 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheetahcat

Ken Salazar is a XXX XXX Communist !!

He is in good company!

43 posted on 02/10/2009 11:54:40 AM PST by kempster
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Yes,and why aren't they on here bashing president Bush and John McCain?

They could at least defend Bambam,they helped elect this socialist president.

44 posted on 02/10/2009 11:54:51 AM PST by BARLF
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To: Badeye
It was never a viable concept in the first place.

I don't think Russia got the word. Shortly after the Korean War, the nation that was known as the USSR run by Stalin was considered a non-oil producing state. Stalin got a peek at a report that there was viable refilling oil deposits located deeper than any previously known deposits. He began an aggressive ultra deep oil drilling program. Today, Russia is regularly tied for 1st and 2nd as the top oil producer in the world.

Just a few years ago, a new field was discovered in the Gulf of Mexico by Shell Oil (IIRC) and it's proven to have increased our reserves by over 75% but the enviro whackos won't let us drill it like it should be drilled. There is even a part of that field that is near the Florida town of Gulf Breeze and it is sitting in a bubble very near the ocean floor. There have been estimates that if it were tapped, viable oil supplies could be reaching our refineries within 18 months!

DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW!

We can in fact drill our way out of this problem. But there are too many competing globalist, socialist,elitist agendas that would be shattered if we got to complete energy independence and so it will never be allowed.

45 posted on 02/10/2009 11:55:56 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Badeye
There is no nation on this planet thats industrialized that is ‘energy independent’ and there never will be.

How about less dependent on energy from sources that are otherwise bent on our destruction .. will that work for you?

46 posted on 02/10/2009 11:56:00 AM PST by tx_eggman (I own two rare photos. Houdini as he locks his keys in his car and Norman Rockwell beating a child.)
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To: curiosity

NAH...with UhBama gas prices will rise...fast..IMHO


47 posted on 02/10/2009 11:56:18 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: Edizzl79; KansasGirl
I'ts 1775 all over again
48 posted on 02/10/2009 11:58:01 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: BARLF

They look for the very worst they can find in someone and if there’s an issue on which they do not agree, bam, throw them out. It’s called “throwing the baby out with the bathwater”.


49 posted on 02/10/2009 12:00:06 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: edpc
Between this and the Utah lease cancellations, expect gas to rise over the $2 per gallon mark on average.

Maybe you meant to say $3/gallon. Two dollars is only about 15¢ from where we are today and was going to happen no matter what, with summer around the corner.

50 posted on 02/10/2009 12:00:27 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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