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Concealed carry is bulletproof
TheBatt.com ^ | 6 February, 2009 | Travis Holland

Posted on 02/08/2009 5:10:59 AM PST by marktwain

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To: marktwain

good job marktquan
Very informative.
I know what you mean about getting rid of Janet Napolitano,
congratulations on that one.


21 posted on 02/08/2009 6:04:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: ontap

Don’t get down on yourself. I’m wrong sometimes just getting out of bed.


22 posted on 02/08/2009 6:07:00 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

Oh I’m fine. I’m wrong enough times that it really doesn’t affect me that much anymore. LOL


23 posted on 02/08/2009 6:13:02 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Beagle8U
The way the Heller ruling came out they may be able to get away with saying you can only “bear” arms in your own home!

That may be true, but...

They may SAY whatever they want.

As a law-abiding American citizen with rights bestowed by God, not government bureacrats and top-of-the-heap ambulance-chasers (judges), I will DO what is necessary to protect myself and my family (and my country from tyrannical, out-of-control government bureaucrats and JBT's).

In light of that, THEY can KMA.

24 posted on 02/08/2009 6:24:25 AM PST by DocH (Keep your powder dry and keep it in the black, fellow freedom-loving Patriots)
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To: ontap

Arizona also allows concealed carry. Arizona also recognizes concealed carry permits from other states.


25 posted on 02/08/2009 6:29:45 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: marktwain

As an aside, there are several tales of historical Arizona Sheriffs and guns worthy of mention.

One such retired after over 40 years as Sheriff, with something on the order of 70 concluded murder investigations, none unsolved. When he would ride out to a criminal scene, he would bring a second horse with him for whoever he would arrest. On his retirement, it was decided that a plaque should be made, featuring his gun. But it was soon discovered that the gun could not be removed from the holster, having become fused with the leather, and the gun itself was just a hunk of rust. In his entire career, he had never drawn his gun.

Another Sheriff, however, who often needed to transport prisoners around his county, did so without restraining the prisoners at all. They would even stop in to small restaurants so the Sheriff could buy them a meal en route, if needed. The prisoners would not do anything without either being told to, or asking for and being given permission first. None of them dared, because the Sheriff was known to be the fastest, deadliest, and most dangerous gunman in the region.

And then, of course, there was both historical Tombstone, Arizona, and today’s Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County. An interesting bunch.


26 posted on 02/08/2009 6:57:17 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: xtargeter

Watch your state laws. While technically legal in NC there its a law which prevents “”Going Armed to the Terror of the Public”. If someone sees your weapon and gets scared you can be arrested. This was extensively covered in our CCW class.

“By common law in North Carolina, it is unlawful for a person to arm himself with any unusual and dangerous weapon, for the purpose of terrifying others, and go about on public highways in a manner to cause terror to others. The N.C. Supreme Court has said that any gun is an unusual and dangerous weapon for purposes of this offense. Therefore persons are cautioned as to the areas they frequent with firearms.


27 posted on 02/08/2009 7:04:05 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: ontap

Went to AZ in 1992. Was surprised to see a man walking down the street with a double “gunslinger” rig on. Walked into a gun store and asked about it. Did not know they had open carry. I liked it!

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28 posted on 02/08/2009 7:06:45 AM PST by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger :::::::::: Live to fly, Fly to live)
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To: DocH

I agree. My state ( Michigan) has a shall issue CCW law, open carry without permit, and anyone can carry concealed on their own property without any permits.


29 posted on 02/08/2009 7:52:59 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Its a good article except for the above. Vermont and DC don't have a lot in common!

Yeah, you're right.

Vermont is now peopled mostly by Liberal vermin from New Yawk and Taxatwoshitts and DC is peopled mostly by Liberal vermin from all over the country.

Vermont's lax gun laws are living on borrowed time.

30 posted on 02/08/2009 8:15:24 AM PST by Gritty (The places where we can't concealed carry is a shopping list for a madman - Suzanna Hupp)
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To: marktwain
A reasonable summation in a short essay in favor of "shall issue" conceald carry laws.

You wouldn't think the words 'shall not be infringed' would be that hard to understand.

The right to self defense being an absolute right, I have yet to discover how any government entity has the authority to say I must get its permission to carry a concealed weapon.

31 posted on 02/08/2009 10:09:22 AM PST by MamaTexan (If you don't think government is out of control, you're not looking hard enough)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Erik Latranyi said: These three “holes” in the Heller ruling are wide enough to allow even the most weak-minded liberal to drive a truck through.

It's actually quite the reverse of what you say, I believe.

It was the Heller decision that drove a truck through the anti-gun notion that there is no individual right to keep and bear arms.

Most of the language in Heller addressing "gun control" is phrased similar to "nothing in this decision ...", meaning that the whole issue of various gun control schemes is for another Court to decide. There was no decision that such things were consistent with the Second Amendment.

One might be hard pressed to find a decision that clearly states that the First Amendment bars registration of books. But what Court would allow such?

As various gun control schemes come before the Court, the Court will be obligated to consider the incremental "benefit" of any such controls. There is so little evidence that any controls have a beneficial effect that I would expect a string of successful challenges demonstrating that there is no justification at all for inconveniencing law-abiding citizens in the exercise of their right.

The real problem is that the majority in Heller was barely sufficient.

32 posted on 02/08/2009 10:53:42 AM PST by William Tell
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To: marktwain
Thus closes the bulletproof case for concealed carry laws.

In a sane country yes. Here, I don't think so.

33 posted on 02/08/2009 11:26:49 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: xtargeter
Please note, I did not say permitted, because the right to carry a firearm is not something granted by the government.

I can remember taking 22's and 410 shotguns to school, placing them in the cloak room, to use for killing supper on the way home.

I never new a boy that did not carry a pocket knife or a sheath knife to school, and everywhere else.

When I was a teenager everyone I knew carried guns in their cars, policemen stopped us, even did what is now illegal searches, but they never confiscated a pistol, whether in the glovebox or under the seat.

What happened?

34 posted on 02/08/2009 11:33:46 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: snippy_about_it
Absolutely! My permit was issued with the 2nd amendment. Period.

Unfortunately that will keep you out of jail in only a few states.

35 posted on 02/08/2009 11:35:52 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: marktwain

Thanks for the update on Arizona, which has been my favorite state since I began visiting my parents there in the mid-’70s. At that time, open carry was legal and common - more so in rural areas, of course, where you were less likely to find yankee busy-bodies.

I knew you now had concealed carry, but didn’t know that open carry is still possible.
Here in Texas, concealed carry wasn’t passed until Gov. Bush replaced Dimocrat Ann “Ma” Richards, and even now the requirements to get the license are onerous compared to most other shall-issue states.


36 posted on 02/08/2009 11:36:39 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: itsahoot
“What happened?”

I believe that there is one primary cause and numerous secondary causes. The primary cause is the infiltration and control of most of our institutions by “liberal fascists” otherwise known as “progressives” that view the Constitution as an impediment to be overcome, and personal liberty as a quaint concept that has no relevance for the unwashed masses in a modern society.

Secondary causes are: the rise of unwed mothers, who have a propensity and desire to be protected and provided for by the government instead of a husband; the demonization of firearms by the MSM; and general urbanization of society, which combined with the above leads to smaller numbers of hunters and shooters.

37 posted on 02/08/2009 11:44:23 AM PST by marktwain
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