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GOP in New York looks to Giuliani
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | February 8, 2009 | NA

Posted on 02/07/2009 11:48:16 PM PST by neverdem

ALBANY, N.Y. -- New York Republicans are completely out of power for the first time in four decades. Democrats rule the executive and legislative branches and hold 26 of the state's 29 congressional seats.

On the fringes of this grim political tableau hovers a larger-than-life figure who won worldwide acclaim after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Rudy Giuliani, considered the GOP's best chance for redemption, has a new nickname: Rudy the Savior...

(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cuethexdressingpix; giuliani; gop; rudolphgiuliani; rudygiuliani; rudytherino; rudythesavior
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To: neverdem
Here is a thread that I posted earlier of an outstanding interview of Rudy Giuliani by Glenn Beck.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175963/posts

21 posted on 02/08/2009 5:43:40 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Just mythoughts
.... moderate "we are above it all crowd" are going to have to have their noses rubbed deep in the Animal Farm methodology before they discover what the word values actually means..........

CREDIT LINE Many thanks for the Animal Farm analogy. I've extrapolated your reference to the state of the state as "Animal Farm" many times. As Orwell wrote: some Animals are more equal than others.

ANIMAL FARM REDUX Government whores like Giuliani make us look more like Animal Farm----rather than a democracy. "Animals" get govt perks privileges and free passes-----at the expense of us peon taxpayers.

Our "rule of law" is the thing that distinguishes America from Third World hellholes. The pig-like Animals squeal with delight while decimating the rule of law. Animals declare our laws to be meaningless.

Giuliani and company were toilet-trained at The School of Whatever Works For Me----but they still make smelly messes that peon taxpayers are forced to clean up.

22 posted on 02/08/2009 5:45:45 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Just mythoughts
.........Rudy did leave behind a very 'honest' New York City financial world center.............

Actually when Rooty was prosecuting Wall Street ------ almost all of his cases fell apart----Millkin and Boesky are among the very few who went to jail.

23 posted on 02/08/2009 6:12:00 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Haven’t we had enough of Messiah politicians? Why are all the baby killers being compared to the real Messiah? It’s blasphemy.


24 posted on 02/08/2009 6:30:05 AM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Esther Ruth
Thanks to FReeper ESTHER RUTH for posting the link on another thread:

December 14, 1999
FBI Tracked Alleged Russian Mob Ties of Giuliani Campaign Supporter
The Center for Public Integrity ^ | December 14, 1999 | BY Knut Royce
FR Posted on 02/15/2007 9:40:59 AM PST by Liz

WASHINGTON A prominent commodities trader who acknowledges a business history with a reputed Soviet Bloc crime figure and a notorious arms dealer has been one of New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's top campaign supporters.

Commodities trader Semyon (Sam) Kislin and his family also lavished thousands of dollars in contributions to Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer, to the Clinton-Gore re-election campaign, to former Republican Sen. Alfonse D'Amato and to a number of state and city politicians. Kislin sits on the New York City Economic Development Board.

Kislin is not alone among emigres from the former Soviet Union who have successfully established themselves in the United States while law enforcement agencies, particularly the FBI, track their alleged associations with organized crime. The Center for Public Integrity has obtained confidential law enforcement documents detailing the activities of dozens of the emigres, but authorities rarely make cases and still less share the intelligence outside their departments.

A 1996 Interpol report claims that Kislin's firm, Trans Commodities, Inc., was used by two reputed mobsters from Uzbekistan, Lev and Mikhail Chernoy, for fraud and embezzlement. And a confidential 1994 FBI intelligence report on the Brooklyn, N.Y., mob organization headed by Vyacheslav Ivankov, the imprisoned godfather of Russian organized crime in the United States, lists Kislin as a "member/associate" of Ivankov's gang. It claims that his company co-sponsored a Russian crime boss and contract killer for a US visa and asserts that he was a "close associate" of the late notorious arms smuggler Babeck Seroush, who later settled in Russia. --SNIP--

LINK http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785427/posts

25 posted on 02/08/2009 7:01:37 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I’d sure as hell feel a lot better with Rudy in the White House, than Zero.


26 posted on 02/08/2009 7:02:21 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
As I recall, Freepers foolishly attacked Rudy Giuliani on this list during primary time. He would have been just fine on the most important issues and he is a loyal American and wants to see the U.S. continue and thrive. What was elected is anything but that.

BINGO!

27 posted on 02/08/2009 7:03:57 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
As I recall, Freepers foolishly attacked Rudy Giuliani on this list during primary time. He would have been just fine on the most important issues

So true.

Strange thing is...the Freepers STILL would probably rather see the Marxist in power than Giuliani even today.

Oh...and Freepers also wanted Denny Hastert canned so they got Pelosi.

28 posted on 02/08/2009 7:16:58 AM PST by what's up
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Had he been running against Obama rather than McCain he would have stood a better-than-even chance of winning IMO.


He wouldn’t have picked Palin, and wouldn’t have gotten my vote.


29 posted on 02/08/2009 7:29:29 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
IMHO, I don't think Rudy the RINO will become Rudy the Savior. Why would anyone WANT to deal with Albany, NY? It's Albany as a boobie prize. His chance to get to the White House is probably gone.

Republican holds early lead for Gillibrand seat

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

30 posted on 02/08/2009 7:58:32 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 02/08/2009 8:05:09 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

There’s no one else in this God forsaken state???

It’s not like the GOP will be taking on a Kennedy or a Cumo.


32 posted on 02/08/2009 8:41:49 AM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: neverdem
His chance to get to the White House is probably gone.

He has zero chance of ever being the Republican nominee for President. His views on social issues are way out of the Republican mainstream.

33 posted on 02/08/2009 8:47:16 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: dfwgator
Yeah, but, how else do you send a message to our so called leaders?

If the nation has indeed set out to betray all principles, and adopt marxism, and our leaders do not have the courage to resist, political activism becomes futile.

When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe . Thomas Jefferson

The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed--where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

"One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain't nothing can beat teamwork." ~Seldom Seen Smith in The Monkey Wrench Gang (1975)

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher

34 posted on 02/08/2009 10:15:40 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Ol' Sparky

What happens when Zero goes so far to the left, that even a lot of moderate Democrats decide to leave the Rat Party, and become Republicans? Then they will move the GOP more towards the center, where a guy like Rudy would have a greater shot.


35 posted on 02/08/2009 10:29:59 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Boucheau
Hey, New Yorkers, how do feel about living in places like Michigan, or California. Cuz, that’s where you’re heading like a bullet train.

Who the heck are you talking to? New Yorkers on FreeRepublic agree with you, so stop lecturing us already!

36 posted on 02/08/2009 10:41:26 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: dfwgator
Then they will move the GOP more towards the center, where a guy like Rudy would have a greater shot.

Moving toward the "center" is what cost the Republicans the majority. McCain, the "moderate" was destroyed in the last election.

Giuliani's leftist views on social issues would drive Catholics and Hispanics to the Democrats even if the Republicans got back to limited-government policies.

37 posted on 02/08/2009 12:07:19 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: BfloGuy

“NewYorkers on FreeRepublic agree with you...”

I know that. I was “talking” to the masses of leftists that are infesting that state, not you.


38 posted on 02/08/2009 2:49:01 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: dfwgator

Couln’t agree more.

Rudy would make a great Governor.

Patterson is an incompetent corrupt machine Pol, not to mention a far Leftwing Dim.


39 posted on 02/08/2009 6:56:14 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * JINDAL* PALIN * CANTOR 2012)
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To: Beelzebubba

> He wouldn’t have picked Palin, and wouldn’t have gotten my vote.

I wouldn’t have picked Palin, either. Even now I’m not so sure about her.

Beyond dispute, she is a talented administrator and she is beyond dispute popular in Alaska and beyond dispute she can make tough calls guided by a moral compass that is well-calibrated exactly to where it should be: True North. Beyond dispute she is intelligent. And beyond dispute she is everything a Conservative should be.

Beyond dispute she is young and attractive and beyond dispute she is articulate and beyond dispute she represents a segment in society that has been under-represented in the Oval Office. (These latter three points are all that Obama as going for him BTW).

So why aren’t I sure about her? Why not select her for POTUS or for VP?

That’s a tough one. I think what it comes down to is this: people polarize on Sarah Palin very easily: they either love her or hate her. They take extreme positions and they keep them.

She is also really easy to charicature and ridicule, through no fault of her own. So was Reagan.

Given the chance to vote for Sarah Palin, I would vote for her in a heartbeat. Given the chance to select your next POTUS or VP candidate, I’d take a look at the talent pool, see who else might be lurking in there. They tell me Bobby Jindal is pretty good, for instance...


40 posted on 02/08/2009 8:04:04 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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