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[President]Obama, Pentagon pull in different directions on no nukes goal
The Dhaka Daily Star / Agence France Presse ^ | February 1, 2009

Posted on 01/31/2009 8:46:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Barack Obama has set a goal of a "world without nuclear weapons" but the Pentagon is leaning in a seemingly contradictory direction: a modernised nuclear arsenal.

The new administration has signalled its intent to swiftly engage Russia in negotiations on deeper cuts in their respective arsenals, with the ultimate aim of reducing them to zero.

But US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has been leading another kind of charge, arguing in the final months of the previous administration that deeper cuts must be underpinned by production of a new warhead to replace an ageing nuclear stockpile.

"To be blunt, there is absolutely no way we can maintain a credible deterrent and reduce the number of weapons in our stockpile without either resorting to testing our stockpile or pursuing a modernisation program," he said in an October 28 speech.

Gates' speech at the Carnegie Endowment for Peace, says Jan Kristensen, an analyst at the Federation of American Scientists, was "an attempt to set a bottom line."

In Kristensen's view, the secretary's message was:

"You can cut the numbers, but below that we need to have a strong capability, not only to maintain what we have, but also to build up if we need to."

Kristensen added: "That is the big clash."

Gates is not alone in his thinking.

General Kevin Chilton, head of the US Strategic Command, warns that the United States is "living today off the largesse of an industrial base and a concept that was developed to support the Cold War which is many years in the rear view mirror right now."

A Pentagon advisory panel led by former defense secretary James Schlesinger warned this month of a weakening US deterrent.

On the other hand, former secretaries of state Henry Kissinger and George Shultz, former defense secretary William Perry and former Senator Sam Nunn say that nuclear weapons are increasingly ineffective as a deterrent.

They called for a "world free of nuclear weapons" in a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece two years ago.

The debate is likely to intensify over the next year as the new administration reviews the US nuclear posture.

A bipartisan commission appointed by Congress is expected to weigh in April, and the Pentagon will undertake its own review later this year.

The White House has already staked out its position, declaring on its website that "Obama and (Vice President Joe) Biden will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons, and pursue it."

They will stop production of new nuclear weapons, seek agreement with Russia to take missiles off hair trigger alert, and seek "dramatic reductions" in their respective arsenals, it said.

But, it also said, "Obama and Biden will always maintain a strong deterrent as long as nuclear weapons exist."

Proponents of modernization argue that as weapons in the existing stockpile age, doubts about their safety and reliability will inevitably grow, thereby lessening their deterrent value.

They want Congress to fund the production of a new so-called "Reliable Replacement Warhead," which would incorporate safety features in its design to prevent accidental detonation or unauthorized use.

The Congress, however, has been skeptical of the need for the RRW. Studies have shown no decline in the safety or reliability of the existing arsenal, and programs currently exist to extend their shelf life.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agenda; appeasement; bho2009; bho44; disarmament; naivite; nuclearweapons; obama; surrender; weakwilled; wot
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President Jimmy Carter without the experience and common sense.
1 posted on 01/31/2009 8:46:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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But Iran PROMISED they would give up their nukes!


2 posted on 01/31/2009 8:48:09 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I fear Gates won’t even make it through the year.


3 posted on 01/31/2009 8:48:13 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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4 posted on 01/31/2009 8:50:07 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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I agree. He must have taken this job knowing it would not end well...bascially in a very public stand-off between common sense (his views) and crazy radicalism. Maybe he figured he will be able to see out success for a longer period of time in Iraq/Afghanistan, and try to carry on some level of reality at the Pentagon with the job, rather than turning it over to the nuts now.


5 posted on 01/31/2009 8:51:08 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper

If you’re right...he is truly a patriot.


6 posted on 01/31/2009 8:52:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “fairness doctrine” is really the “hush Rush” law, and this scheme is really the “disarm America” ploy.


7 posted on 01/31/2009 8:53:19 PM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If anybody in the world is going to have nukes it would best be America. The bigger and badder the better. And make sure everyone knows we will use them if we get the idea that we need to. In fact, let ‘em worry all the time about us using them. Maybe even give the impression that we are bit psychotic and might use them without warning. Set one off now and then just to remind the world what it looks like.

The world wondered about the sanity of Ronald Reagan and we saw how Iran let our hostages go the very day the Gipper was in a position to rain down nukes on their heads.

8 posted on 01/31/2009 8:55:00 PM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boy, these people just never learn from history. The minute we dismantle our nukes, our major cities will become glass parking lots. You know that Russia and China are salivating over this.


9 posted on 01/31/2009 8:56:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Libertarian and Constitution Parties should merge into one)
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In case no one has noticed, the Russians and Chinese navies are building new SSBN classes with 30-year life cycles guaranteed to keep our grandsons busy.

Don't be stupid, Barry.
10 posted on 01/31/2009 9:00:03 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t know that they’ll become glass parking lots. However, we will become the bitch of anyone (superpower or tinpot dictator) with nuclear weapons. This is not a hard concept to understand — if you want peace, be prepared for war.


11 posted on 01/31/2009 9:01:34 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I think that Gates stayed in to protect the troops for as long as possible and to try to make sure that the WOT ends in some sort of success. Westley Clark will be Gates replacement in May of 2010, with someone filling in the interim should Gates not make it until that time.


12 posted on 01/31/2009 9:02:41 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why do we need nuclear weapons when we can negotiate with everybody without preconditions?

This may not be the Age Of Aquarius, but it sure feels like it.

It also feels like the Age Of The End...

13 posted on 01/31/2009 9:04:47 PM PST by Gritty (The accumulation of all powers in the same hands is the very definition of tyranny-James Madison)
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If this is true, there is a case to be made for Kissinger et al to be hung for treason...
14 posted on 01/31/2009 9:11:09 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ilgipper

I had stated when the chosen one kept Gates on that I felt, and still do, that the only reason Gates stayed was to put himself as a buffer between the chosen one and the military. He knows that the chosen ones idea that the road to peace can only come after the complete dismanteling of our military.


15 posted on 01/31/2009 9:16:06 PM PST by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The White House has already staked out its position, declaring on its website that “Obama and (Vice President Joe) Biden will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons, and pursue it.””

Fantasy!!


16 posted on 01/31/2009 9:16:33 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, 4-30-07:

Special Report: New Nukes Are Good Nukes?

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=new-nukes-are-good-nukes

Article seems to take an anti-nuke spin but provides technical facts related to this issue.

17 posted on 01/31/2009 9:17:53 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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Jimmuh Carter Deux Duh
18 posted on 01/31/2009 9:21:36 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 12 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You have got to be kidding me!!! This is beyond stupid. It is insane.

First, the anti-war, peace, love hippies from the 60s come back to haunt us and now the anti-nuke, peace, love hippies from the 70s and 80s are back.

The world has been free from world wars for the past 60 years ONLY because of the nuclear deterrent.

We will be damn lucky if we survive until 2012 and replace this idiot and his comrades.


19 posted on 01/31/2009 9:28:49 PM PST by jim-x (You cannot protect people from themselves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No nukes... the goal of every seven year old.

By the time you’re an adult, you know why we need them.


20 posted on 01/31/2009 9:34:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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