Posted on 01/27/2009 6:00:49 AM PST by EternalVigilance
How so?
How much do you put on the early open primaries that let the other party decide GOP candidates?
How much do you put on the candidates themselves who chose to run, and those who chose not to run?
What "constant compromises of principle" led to McCain, and which "weak sisters" were responsible?
-PJ
Sounds like your standard attack. Call anyone who disagrees with you a leftie, a liberal, a socialist ... whatever comes handy. Oh, and use quotes out of context, that always works wonders. it only proves my point - you are personally attacking people for not agreeing with you 100%, even when they are probably in 90% agreement. That is rigid and wrong. It is sad because you know that I voted for Keyes. Is that what a leftist does, vote for Keyes? Waste time on FR debating folks like EV? What's the point anyway? Who are you trying to impress? Yourself?
Here's a hint: Take a close look at the fruit of the last two years.
Yes, what was the fruits of Alan keyes' political involvement since 2004: He lost so badly in 2004 to Obama that Obama didnt even have to compete, but went around helping other candidates, which led to him being able to run for President. Now we have the most leftwing President ever, and all because Keyes ran a horrible 2004 campaign and failed to raise all the real issues about Obama and nip his political career in the bud. Nice fruits of your labor!
Maybe you can go after those Republicans in office, or maybe the Democrats who ran better (and in mayn cases dishonest) campaigns. I am one who tends to think the Democrats and the enemedia played at least a 50% role in Democrat/liberals winning in 2008. The last group you should go after are folks like Jed Babbin.
Why? It’s people like Babbin who are making what you describe possible.
“If the conservative movement doesn’t get its priorities straight”
Yes, and in attacking Jed Babbin your priorities are completely wrong.
e.g. chastising him over whether he agrees 100% with your characterization of what Fred Thompson did in a few hours of work for Planned Parenthood 20 years ago, phew, what an angel-on-pinhead mind-blowing waste of time, as Thompson’s candidacy is over, and now the Democrats have the Freedom of Choice Act, ready to blow away the entire GENERATION of pro-life action in USA in a single bill!
The opponents we face run the New York Times, the Congress and the White House ... not Human Events.
“the Left will have no real opposition”
Because Babbin dares to be a strong conservative voice that doesnt cater to your whims, he’s no real opposition.
Pretty arrogant for a bunch of folks who have managed to be pretty marginal.
You know, if you are so great - LEAD. Go out there and win some victories for conservatives. Just stop beating up other conservatives for being failures. Show by your EXAMPLE what success is and how to get it.
attacking other conservatives is just beyond stupid.
There you go again, attacking conservatives pointlessly and needlessly.
Jed Babbin is a conservative talk-show fillin for Laura Ingraham and an editor. Nothing he says is different or more right/wrong than stuff on FR or stuff in right-wing media in general. Blaming him for anything other than a wrong opinion or bad editing is beyond pointless.
I could write a book.
How much do you put on the early open primaries that let the other party decide GOP candidates?
It took me a very long time to see this, but the fact that the Republican Party is an open associate made it inevitable that it would be overtaken by the other side. If you live next to skid row, and put out the word that anyone and everyone are welcome to live in your house, you're probably not going to be wanting to live there yourself for very long.
How much do you put on the candidates themselves who chose to run, and those who chose not to run?
The list of those that I consider truly qualified to lead this country back from the destruction it's heading for is very short. That's my answer concerning both groups you name.
What "constant compromises of principle" led to McCain, and which "weak sisters" were responsible?
Simply put, the compromises of principle are the complete abandonment of Declaration and Constitutional principles. The weak sisters are a Who's Who of the Republican Party, its satellite organizations and press arms, and the conservative movement.
Well said.
I’m sorry, but there’s nothing that can have its credibility restored by putting Alan Keyes in charge.
Human Events was once one of the few reliably conservative publications. If you have no problem with it becoming just another unprincipled press arm for the unprincipled hacks who now own the Republican Party, that’s your problem.
Enjoy Romney, and the other destructive forces who are going to do nothing to help restore this country, and who will subtly but surely empower the continued move to the left.
we have divide and conquer agenda trolls abounding on freerepublic.com these days.
we have little napoleons trying to establish their own new version of the john birch society,
we have media maters [sic] trolls encouraging the division,
and
we have just useful idiot DUmies who enjoy stiring the pot.
Unfortunatly we have internet illiterates in the GOP leadership who have never even read a thread off the net OR they only read the sanitized threads via underlings.
Your script is simple: X doesnt agree with me 100% therefore X is evil/bad/wrong/too liberal. So you attack X.
Never mind that X may be a good conservative or a center-right influence in a good direction overall and/or a lesser issue than O, the real dangerous / liberal force in America.
You constantly ignore the larger threats. Why? You are afraid to attack real liberals, like Pelosi, Obama, etc. Maybe you are a troll (nope) or you just don’t get how real political strategy works (Reagan rule - a guy who agrees with me 80% is an ally not a traitor) or maybe you just cant do the big leagues so do the pipsqueak Trotskyite splitter stuff (big fish in small pond syndrome). Whatever the reason, the result is predictable. You end up harming and dividing the cause.
Your actions of division against other conservatives are destructive and harmful to the conservative cause. You accuse Babbin falsely and blame him for things he is no more responsible for than you are (hmm, there’s an idea, maybe we can blame you for 2008 elections, it makes no less sense than blaming Babbin.)
Thus, you are engaged in precisely what you claim to oppose.
Enjoy your coterie of circular firing squad extremists and the other destructive forces who are going to do nothing to help restore this country, and who will subtly but surely empower the continued move to the left.
Your words betray you, and are actually quite illustrative of exactly what I'm talking about.
Sorry WOSG, but this mindset is exactly the problem. In a game of compromise, evil always wins.
There's me and Reagan on one side and you on another. I'm sticking with Reagan, thank you, and not moronic hair-splitters who go after a good guy like Jed Babbin.
""When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything. "I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.' "If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it. - Ronald Reagan
Steve Deace of WHO Radio interviews Jed Babbin
Pretty much sums up the subject of this thread, and explains the reason for this letter.
Funny, considering the fact that conservatives are now getting ZERO, thanks to the compromised state of our "leadership."
No one can be perfect on all issues, but Babbin is great on the War on Terror, and is a leader in criticizing the UN and the EUnuchs. That’s why I support him.
That’s good, if you think that the most dire threat to our free republic is external.
I don’t.
- The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume I, "Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois (January 27, 1838), p. 109.
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