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Bernanke: Game Over?
The Market Ticker ^ | 1/25/09 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 01/26/2009 5:57:58 AM PST by randita

Bernanke: Game Over?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankinglist; financelist; moneylist
I don't understand the chart. Would someone explain it, please? Thanks.
1 posted on 01/26/2009 5:57:59 AM PST by randita
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To: randita

The End Of The World As We Know It.

They are trying to introduce hyperinflation, but without a wage increase to match price increases all they will accomplish is the destruction of the middle class and the end of the Republic.

I’ve thought this was 0bama’s job all along.


2 posted on 01/26/2009 6:02:40 AM PST by Garrisson Lee
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To: randita

ping


3 posted on 01/26/2009 6:06:38 AM PST by Monsieur Poirot
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To: randita
Boy! The Fed Reserve Chairman has a tough last name! It is really difficult to spell "benek....er....bhinki....uh....bihnk....eh....banhk???

Aw, the heck with it...just spell it "obammer"!

4 posted on 01/26/2009 6:09:34 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Never mistake tolerance for acceptance)
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To: randita

End Game. Ponzi Busted. Stock up on Spam, Candles and other supplies. I have no doubt we are totally and completely bankrupt. There is hell to pay.


5 posted on 01/26/2009 6:10:22 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: randita

Tho only way effective way to get money into the hands of the citizens of this country, without wasteful spending and giving a way a lot of “PORK, is by cutting personal income taxes or giving tax a holiday.


6 posted on 01/26/2009 6:14:38 AM PST by WellyP
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To: rabscuttle385

/mark


7 posted on 01/26/2009 6:18:57 AM PST by KoRn
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To: randita

When you elect a jug eared clodhopper thats really a 007 ought spy as president.. What do you expect... American politics has become like a chimpanzee movie.. where chimps are playing all the humans.. Except FOR REAL.....


8 posted on 01/26/2009 6:20:33 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: randita

I am an amateur, but here is my best explanation.

The chart shows the yield on the 10 year treasury note, which is actually inversely related to the price that people are willing to pay for it. So as the price of the treasury note (”bond”) goes down, the yield of the bond increases. The coupon payments off the bond are a fixed amount, so traders adjust the amount they are willing to pay for it and therefore achieve a specific desired amount of return on their money.

As the government’s (Fed’s) actions look more inflationary, the buyers of such fixed payment notes are wanting a higher return for their money so they are paying less to buy the bonds. The chart shows that people buying the bond are increasingly more worried over the past few weeks about long term risk and inflation than they have been.

Since these yields in turn help set long term interest rates, Bernanke thinks it will have a disparate effect on long term economic growth, so, as the article explains, he’s trying to figure out how to lower those yields and rates. The problem is that he can’t do it by himself but if he tries he will effectively crowd out other lenders in the economy and make things that much worse.

The point is that the Invisible Hand can be influenced at little, but it cannot be told what to do. We NEED to have some recessionary pain right now and the government just needs to accept that and get out of the way. Unfortunately, for political reasons it just can’t do that.


9 posted on 01/26/2009 6:20:46 AM PST by jr.ewing.78
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To: randita

I don’t speak french. Can someone summarize in simple english.


10 posted on 01/26/2009 6:23:20 AM PST by McGruff
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To: jr.ewing.78

IOW, Bernanke’s trying to keep the price of the bonds high by creating “articificial” demand, in order to keep the yield low. Correct?


11 posted on 01/26/2009 6:28:09 AM PST by randita (If the government could "fix" the economy, we'd never have a recession.)
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To: jr.ewing.78

who is the Invisible Hand, tho? who’s the market-maker?


12 posted on 01/26/2009 6:40:54 AM PST by blueplum
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To: randita

The worst US depression before the Great Depression was in 1837, and it was about as bad as the Great Depression. The Panic of 1837 has some interesting parallels to the situation we find ourselves in today.

It began with the success of the Erie canal. Bonds were floated to build the canal, and it was finished under time and under budget. Bondholders became wealthy. So other states decided they were going to build canal systems for themselves as well, and issue enormous amounts of bonds to pay for it. Bonds were in vogue as investments, as they are right now.

All of these other canal projects had one thing in common: to connect the Great Lakes to the Ohio river. Unfortunately, this would require water to run uphill. These details always get in the way of a good idea.

At the time, small banks popped up throughout the region. Banks which issued their own paper currencies. Hundreds of thousands of people had their life savings in such banks, and when the canal projects stumbled, President Andrew Jackson dropped a bombshell causing an economic collapse.

He ordered that all privately produced currency had to be backed with gold and silver. This forced the banks to try to buy metal, which caused a run on the market. This destroyed the career of Jackson’s replacement, Martin Van Buren, and threw the nation into a five year long depression.

This directly relates to the situation today, because the US Treasury bill, which is a bond, has become an enormous bubble. Everyone who could bought US T-bills, but even the rest of the world is running out of the money they need to continue doing so.

The situation we find ourselves in right now demands ever increasing amounts of money that don’t exist. It cannot even tolerate less than the huge amounts being poured into T-bills right now, much less reductions, or no sales at all.

So here is an analogy of what Bernanke is planning. Say you are selling a bin full of fresh, ripe tomatoes. Everybody who wants tomatoes has already purchased them. So people start haggling the price down, until the tomatoes are almost free.

But you want to make money from the tomatoes, so you decide to buy most of your own bin of tomatoes, so that people will think there are fewer tomatoes, and buy them at a higher price.

However, the market is tapped out. Nobody wants any more tomatoes. So all the tomatoes you bought from yourself go bad, and are worthless. Right when a huge new crop of tomatoes (new spending), is ready for harvest.

Bernanke is going to lose, big time.


13 posted on 01/26/2009 7:26:42 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: randita
That is correct. The Fed wanting to set a floor on the price of the bonds would therefore suppress the yields to an artificial level.

As the article explains, if Bernanke is willing to pay more than the market price then no one else would be a buyer. The only problem is that Bernanke's money isn't "real" so it further exacerbates the inflationary pressure elsewhere.

14 posted on 01/26/2009 7:45:34 AM PST by jr.ewing.78
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To: blueplum

The Invisible Hand is all of the traders and merchants who are bidding down the notes to get the yields more in line with real interest rates that aren’t connected with the Fed. They all act individually in their own self-interest but have a combined effect.


15 posted on 01/26/2009 7:50:01 AM PST by jr.ewing.78
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Seems like people could figure this scheme out (esp. those who would have the dough to put into these bills) - esp. in this day of widespread information dispersal. But I guess Bernanke hopes he can find enough suckers to live to see another day or two.


16 posted on 01/26/2009 8:04:01 AM PST by randita (If the government could "fix" the economy, we'd never have a recession.)
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To: Garrisson Lee

We try for you, Argentina!


17 posted on 01/26/2009 8:15:53 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: Garrisson Lee

How do you get hyper inflation with out rising wages? Just curious.


18 posted on 01/26/2009 3:32:43 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: blueplum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_hand

It's an Adam Smithism...

19 posted on 01/26/2009 8:54:45 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: The man who created The Sock-Puppet Constitution.)
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To: Garrisson Lee
They are trying to introduce hyperinflation, but without a wage increase to match price increases all they will accomplish is the destruction of the middle class and the end of the Republic.

They can't get out of this deflationary spiral that easily. The American middle class no longer has any wage "pricing power", as they just don't do much of anything that can't easily be bought from China or India at a fraction of the price.

20 posted on 01/26/2009 8:57:43 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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