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1 posted on 01/24/2009 7:05:29 PM PST by LuxMaker
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To: LuxMaker

Tice is not reliable, to say the least.


2 posted on 01/24/2009 7:07:37 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: LuxMaker
Depends on the definition of dissident and the date.
4 posted on 01/24/2009 7:12:34 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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That’s just the nature of antennas.


5 posted on 01/24/2009 7:14:37 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: LuxMaker

Is that why we’re so slow on this site, today? (Now that we’re under Zero?) /s


7 posted on 01/24/2009 7:15:52 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: LuxMaker

i live a pretty much boring life.

i hope the nsa enjoys monitoring it.

wouldn’t that take an inordinate amount of time for 300,000,000 americans?


9 posted on 01/24/2009 7:27:50 PM PST by ken21
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Russell Tice is a name I don’t trust, but that doesn’t mean the govt is benign. There are NO truly independent watchdogs- especially now.


11 posted on 01/24/2009 7:28:37 PM PST by PghBaldy (Obama showing off his crotch: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=550_1210277599)
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Wonder if any “innocent Americans” can come forth with proof that they were spied on?


15 posted on 01/24/2009 7:38:23 PM PST by tips up
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Usually, in true surveillance societies, like the old USSR and allied countries, there is a certain stability in the government. As we saw last November, our government is not that stable. Consider that the elections went over to the side that was supposedly being suppressed.
I am worried that our current President, and his cabal, might crave this sort of stability.


16 posted on 01/24/2009 7:43:57 PM PST by jmcenanly
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Why is it that liberals are never concerned about the massive amount of personal financial information that the IRS sucks up?

Oh, I know. Government confiscation of assets in the form of taxes is good. National defense is bad.

18 posted on 01/24/2009 8:16:39 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Crisis - America Held Hostage)
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The way I remember it, back in the seventies the NSA was a “black ops” organization all the way. I remember a TV news guy ( Dan Rather ? ) standing along a road with the NSA facility in the background saying that nobody knew what went on there, and that the government didn’t even acknowledge its existence.

This idea that they were beyond any external control was popularly accepted as “spy stuff”, and it was regarded as something of a joke. Of course, things were brought more into the light and constraints were put into place. Then when Bush quibbled over these procedures, he was portrayed as dragging the USA into totalitarianism.


23 posted on 01/24/2009 8:36:48 PM PST by dr_lew
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Very old news.

Was told this in 1970.

Been noting it on FR from near the beginning.

Have been derisively dismissed most of the time. LOL.


24 posted on 01/24/2009 8:38:26 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1555627/posts
This obese psycho has been discussed on FR for years.


25 posted on 01/24/2009 8:44:08 PM PST by mrsmith
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If “everyone” is under surveillance, why didn’t the NSA know Tice would say this stuff and shut him up before he did so?


26 posted on 01/24/2009 8:49:35 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, he-he, ho-ho!)
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How many of these "journalists" have been carted away to secret prisons or been forced to tow the Bush administration line for fear of blackmail? How many have gone over to a transparent, jingoistic "America First" tone to assauge their secret police intimidators?

Oh, none? How strange.

28 posted on 01/24/2009 8:56:06 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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ANother defensive effort that will be shut down....it’s going to be like the mid-70S and Watergate, Church and the CIA all over again, on steroids...except this time the terrorists and our other enemies are much more dangerous. Nukes, bio, chemical, cyber....


30 posted on 01/24/2009 9:20:14 PM PST by citizen (Fascism: All persons, capital & activities exist to support the will & best interests of the State.)
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journalists and innocent Americans

Thank goodness someone is finally starting to draw this distinction.


31 posted on 01/24/2009 9:24:52 PM PST by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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Why is it dismissed (fired) FedGov employees become
wistle blowers”?

I thought the correct term was “disgruntled ex-employye”


34 posted on 01/24/2009 11:43:24 PM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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This guy is full of crap.

When one end of your phone conversation is outside the USA, you have NO expectation of privacy. That other country’s security service or others could be listening.

Fore warned, fore armed. You speak, you take your chances.

It’s NOT illegal to listen to that conversation.

Did you also miss this weeks news that the FISA Court of Appeals upheld that all the BS the loonie left said was illegal, is in reality LEGAL.

While Soldiers Died, The Left Lied. To help the enemy.


35 posted on 01/25/2009 12:12:25 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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In December, 2005, Tice helped spark a national controversy over claims that the NSA and the DIA were engaged in unlawful and unconstitutional wiretaps on American citizens. He later admitted that he was one of the sources that were used in the New York Times’ reporting on the wiretap activity in December 2005.

Tice was ordered to undertake a psychological evaluation, which he believed was retaliatory. The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia.


36 posted on 01/25/2009 12:24:57 AM PST by kcvl
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Old news. It was mentioned in the book The Codebreakers published back in the 1970s.


40 posted on 01/25/2009 5:50:25 AM PST by mombi
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