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Book links JFK murder to killing of RFK and MLK
Philly .com ^ | January 8, 2008

Posted on 01/10/2009 12:11:06 PM PST by gusopol3

new, heavily researched book on John F. Kennedy's murder and its investigation sees links with a bagful of sensational stories, including the killing of Martin Luther King Jr. The links connect with the main contention in "Legacy of Secrecy/The Long Shadow of the JFK Assassination" (Counterpoint, 848 pages, $33), by Lamar Waldron with Thom Hartmann, that the assassination was engineered by Carlos Marcello, longtime Mafia boss in New Orleans.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassinations; bookreview; conspiracytheory; jfk; jfkassassination; mafia; tinfoil; truthers
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1 posted on 01/10/2009 12:11:07 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

I bet Halliburton did it.


2 posted on 01/10/2009 12:11:55 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (I say Utah #1)
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To: gusopol3

Let me guess, the VRWC.


3 posted on 01/10/2009 12:12:53 PM PST by SouthTexas
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To: gusopol3

Dueling political mobsters?


4 posted on 01/10/2009 12:15:49 PM PST by sarasota
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To: gusopol3

Space aliens were responsible. Arrest ET.


5 posted on 01/10/2009 12:16:21 PM PST by devere
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
heavily researched book

all of Michael Moore's stuff is heavily researched, also, but it doesn't make it true

6 posted on 01/10/2009 12:16:43 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

I still say it’s our government that did it. They are the only ones that have the means to do it.


7 posted on 01/10/2009 12:18:04 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

if any government assisted the commie, Lee Harvey Oswald, it was Castro, IMHO.


8 posted on 01/10/2009 12:22:07 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3; All

We need the photo of the not this *hit again. Somebody please post it.


9 posted on 01/10/2009 12:25:56 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

naw - the new agers did it.


10 posted on 01/10/2009 12:27:17 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: gusopol3
Carlos Marcello
11 posted on 01/10/2009 12:29:21 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: gusopol3

Probably all tied in; but the government is the only one that had the means to really cover it up.


12 posted on 01/10/2009 12:30:56 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty
Probably all tied in; but the government is the only one that had the means to really cover it up.

Yeah, right. The U.S. government is so good at keeping secrets. /s
13 posted on 01/10/2009 12:34:27 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: freekitty

Think about your assertion:

The government carries off 3 high profile hits with each implication only going one person deep?

No, this was Mafia work.
They’re much more capable of cleaning up trails of dirty laundry than the government.


14 posted on 01/10/2009 12:35:11 PM PST by G Larry (Barack’s character has been molded by extremists)
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To: gusopol3

15 posted on 01/10/2009 12:35:52 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: gusopol3

I do find it plausible that the mob had a hand in the JFK assassination. The Kennedys happily accepted assistance from the mob in getting JFK elected, and then double-crossed them. I suspect old Joe would have advised against RFK’s attack on the mob had he not been incapacitated by a stroke. Old Joe was a scoundrel, but he wasn’t stupid.


16 posted on 01/10/2009 12:35:53 PM PST by Huntress (Proud owner of Norman/Norma, the transsexual attack cat.)
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To: truthguy

17 posted on 01/10/2009 12:37:07 PM PST by John W (Voters were more afraid of losing their money than losing their souls.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That’s exactly who I was thinking of! lol


18 posted on 01/10/2009 12:40:11 PM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: Huntress

I also found the book DoubleCross to be very believable. I believe the mob was involved in some way.


19 posted on 01/10/2009 12:41:16 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: gusopol3
Some years later, the book says, Marcello brokered a deal that paid James Earl Ray to kill Martin Luther King Jr. It also finds that Marcello's biographer, John H. Davis, and journalist David E. Scheim made "compelling cases" for Marcello's involvement in the killing of Robert Kennedy.

So assassinations got to be kind of a hobby for Carlos Marcello? That's a little too hard to believe.

20 posted on 01/10/2009 12:41:35 PM PST by x
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To: gusopol3

But why would this guy have King killed? I still think it was Marilyn Monroe’s ghost getting even for the Kennedy’s having bumped her off.


21 posted on 01/10/2009 12:46:19 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: freekitty

Oswald had the means.


22 posted on 01/10/2009 12:51:17 PM PST by mlo
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To: gusopol3

There should be a tinfoil hat usage requirement to read this article


23 posted on 01/10/2009 12:57:03 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Who will bailout the bailouters?)
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To: mlo

They all had the means; but the government is the only one that has the full ability to coverup.


24 posted on 01/10/2009 12:59:12 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mlo

He did? What were they?


25 posted on 01/10/2009 12:59:15 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: freekitty

But it’s not covered up. The crime was solved at the time.


26 posted on 01/10/2009 1:00:31 PM PST by mlo
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To: G Larry

The Kennedys had ties to both the mafia and the government. I still say our government had the complete means of covering this up. The others may be involved; but the government is the only one that could carry the coverup out.


27 posted on 01/10/2009 1:01:29 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: JoeA
He worked at the place the shots were fired from. He owned a rifle. He took it to work that day and used it. His rifle fired the bullets.

What else did he need?

28 posted on 01/10/2009 1:02:03 PM PST by mlo
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

I am sure they are.


29 posted on 01/10/2009 1:02:20 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mlo

Sure it was. Maybe in some circles; but not the ones we are privy to.


30 posted on 01/10/2009 1:03:55 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty
No, it' not. You are just as free to know the facts of this crime as anyone else.

Oswald took his rifle to work and shot the President. It's one of the most documented events in history. There are many details. But that is the bottom line.

31 posted on 01/10/2009 1:07:56 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo

Maybe; but is it the truth?


32 posted on 01/10/2009 1:09:37 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty
The Kennedys had ties to both the mafia and the government.

The Kennedys had ties to the government? I did not know that!

Of course, then, it had to be a government conspiracy.

It all makes sense now.

33 posted on 01/10/2009 1:09:38 PM PST by browardchad
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To: gusopol3
Having just completed the book Brothers in Arms: The Kennedys, the Castros, and the Politics of Murder by Gus Russo and Stephen Molton, I would agree with you 100%.

This book was given to me as a Christmas present... At first I thought "why this title?", as I had expressed no interest in further study of the assassination... But after flipping the book open to the middle just to see how it was written and then finding myself having covered 40 pages without putting it down, I thought "Wow, go back and start at the beginning... These guys have done their homework!" As it turns out, it was 30 years worth of homework...

The book is very hard to put down once you start it... The authors are tying things together with facts discovered through their research of documents in the U.S and Russia, along with interviews of former Castro confidants that left Cuba. One interview was with Rolando Cubela Secades, who help Castro with the revolution only to feel betrayed by Castro when Castro turned to communism. Cubela stayed with the revolution with hopes of taking out the Castro brothers and bringing true democracy to Cuba.

Many people don't understand that the revolution wasn't originally communist, but was instead "anti-Batista." It wasn't until after Batista's overthrow and after much pushing by Raul [always the more devout communist than Fidel] that Fidel publicly stated that he was a "Socialist". I always found it offensive for Castro to call himself a "socialist" since I was taught in high school that the chief difference between socialism and communism is that socialism comes about through gradual change, while communism comes about through violent revolution...

Raven6

34 posted on 01/10/2009 1:13:10 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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“...all of Michael Moore's stuff is heavily researched, also, but it doesn't make it true”

Exactly. What this means is the author had to cover up his lies with piles of “What Ifs” “Could Bes” or May Haves” The truth is usually simple.

Oh and that the author has no social life beyond mommy's basement and the library...

35 posted on 01/10/2009 1:22:11 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: Raven6

the elite media has been shielding Castro for almost 50 years, throwing a cloak of “good intentions” over him, That’s why the notion that it’s only been recently that we’ve gotten away from journalistic objectivity or balance is such a howler. And that goes for Watergate and the readily accepted concept that Nixon was some kind of sinister aberration from politics as usual.


36 posted on 01/10/2009 1:22:17 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: freekitty
"I still say it’s our government that did it. They are the only ones that have the means to do it."

Our government couldn't have kept the lid on this for 40+ years unless it had help from the target of the crime, or his extended family. Now why would they not want all the data to get out?

Maybe JFK wasn't exactly an "innocent" victim. The Kennedy brand must be maintained after all.

.....or maybe just Oswald did it.
37 posted on 01/10/2009 1:32:21 PM PST by indthkr
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To: mlo
He worked at the place the shots were fired from. He owned a rifle. He took it to work that day and used it. His rifle fired the bullets. All of the points you make are open to debate. For example, when his wife Marina was questioned, she was unable to identify the rifle as Oswald's. She later changed her testimony in this, as in many other matters.

There's more evidence that Oswald was not the shooter, than evidence that he was.

38 posted on 01/10/2009 1:33:17 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: indthkr

Maybe he did; but our government can keep the lid on. They are the only ones that can.


39 posted on 01/10/2009 1:39:01 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Yaelle
“I also found the book DoubleCross to be very believable. I believe the mob was involved in some way.”

I wonder if there weren't TWO shooters present that day who weren't in any way involved with one another or even aware of one another’s presence. There is pretty good enhanced photographic evidence (BBC'S ‘The Men Who Killed The Kennedys’’) that another shooter was behind a fence (on the knoll?) Between the two (Oswald and Anonymous) they may have represented some combination of lone nut/Castro/Mob. This would cut the number of people actually in on the plans down to a very small number, all the while creating confusing evidence that naturally hinted at some kind of Big Plot. I have always had trouble believing any conspiracy involving a lot of people would have been kept quiet.

40 posted on 01/10/2009 1:39:49 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: freekitty
They all had the means; but the government is the only one that has the full ability to coverup.

You speak of The Government as a large monolithic being instead of a organization comprising of hundreds of thousands of different individuals with differnt motives and beiefs.

An conspiracy of which you speak would be of such proportions as it would involve hundreds of people who:
....never got caught.

.... never whispered a word to anyone.

....never wrote a book, which would make millions nor quoted directly by credible sources.

In other words, the prefect crime.

Or a complete fantasy.

Occam's Razor, baby. Occam's Razor
41 posted on 01/10/2009 1:40:46 PM PST by RedMonqey
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"Maybe; but is it the truth?"

It is one of the strongest murder cases there ever was. There is no doubt about Oswald's guilt. The only thing that makes people doubt it is the 45 years of conspiracists trying to convince people otherwise by misrepresenting the evidence. Just like they try to do now with 9-11.

42 posted on 01/10/2009 1:42:20 PM PST by mlo
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To: freekitty

JFK deservered just what he recieved that fateful November afternoon in Dallas.

And there was no coverup.


43 posted on 01/10/2009 1:44:14 PM PST by stockpirate (To each according to their needs, (bailout) from each according to their ability(bailout funds))
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To: JoeA
"He worked at the place the shots were fired from. He owned a rifle. He took it to work that day and used it. His rifle fired the bullets."

All of the points you make are open to debate.

Not really. Not to rational debate anyway. People can make any claim about anything. That's not the same thing as being open to debate.

"For example, when his wife Marina was questioned, she was unable to identify the rifle as Oswald's."

Citation?

"She later changed her testimony in this, as in many other matters."

Marina has consistently said that Oswald did it. Even now, when conspiracists have surrounded her for years and convinced her that something else was going on, she still insists that Oswald did it. Because she was there and she knew the facts, and knew him.

"There's more evidence that Oswald was not the shooter, than evidence that he was."

No there isn't. Show me some evidence that Oswald was not the shooter. Again, someone making a claim is not evidence.

44 posted on 01/10/2009 1:48:18 PM PST by mlo
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To: stockpirate

That’s pretty harsh.


45 posted on 01/10/2009 1:49:58 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: TalBlack
"There is pretty good enhanced photographic evidence (BBC'S ‘The Men Who Killed The Kennedys’’) that another shooter was behind a fence (on the knoll?)"

There is no photographic evidence of a second shooter. "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" is a joke. Worse than a Michael Moore movie. Even the rational and well-informed conspiracists know it is garbage.

46 posted on 01/10/2009 1:50:11 PM PST by mlo
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To: freekitty
I still say it’s our government that did it. They are the only ones that have the means to do it.

Nonsense. For the price of a couple bullets and an unobstructed shot, any nut can shoot a president.

In fact, six nuts have done it.

47 posted on 01/10/2009 1:50:16 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: mlo

Maybe.


48 posted on 01/10/2009 1:50:31 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: RedMonqey

Never said it was a conspiracy.


49 posted on 01/10/2009 1:51:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: indthkr

Maybe


50 posted on 01/10/2009 1:51:29 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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