Posted on 01/09/2009 9:51:58 AM PST by jasonmyos
Thanks! I can't believe I never noticed the Tagline box...
I also see the logic of your argument,and you're right I think it's a differing worldview issue.
There usually comes a point in these sorts of discussions when one or both parties realize that and they simply have to part their ways, both thinking "Sheesh...my point of view makes so much sense, why doesn't he see that?"
I think I'll rotate different Heinlein quotes through the tagline, that should be fun! Thanks again for the advice.
That's a good metaphor for a large portion of my life FRiend lol.
(I'm partial to Bradbury myself. He always mixes a deep message into his stories. A brilliant writer.)
Things shall become very revealing soon.
One of my favorite Christian author/speakers is Steve Brown. He says sometimes he actually prays for his enemies to die.
Of course, it’s never happened, and he doesn’t think it ever will. He just uses that as something to show that you can go to God about anything.
I will not pray that Michael Newdow dies. However, I can rest assured that when he does one day shuffle off this mortal coil, he will find that despite his whining, arguing and claims to the contrary...
...he will be proven one and for all, totally, completely, and ETERNALLY wrong.
(And...I also believe the Lord will shed a tear for him. Mr. Newdow is LOVED more deeply than he can imagine..and doesn’t even know it.)
Newdow has the sourest face ever. And no wonder. He has no faith in God and nothing to sustain him. He is to be pitied.
Keep God, lose obama.
I saw Newdow debate some of these issues with Gregory Katsas, Deputy Assistant Attorney General, who argued in Newdow v. Carey (still pending after a year in the Ninth Circuit).
Newdow is for a very strict idea of fairness, whereas Katsas argued ably for upholding tradition, and gave many examples--at least at the debate, that is.
Both arguments have merit, and in this case, allowing the phrase but not requiring it seems to me to be occupying an acceptable middle ground.
Show me in Scripture where our Lord tells us to pray for Satan, or demons or evil...
God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob have mercy on our country. Lord of heaven and earth how long will the reins and reign of the prince of this world discard You and set himself as the new king?( Psalm 2).
Let’s look at the bright side of this, it seems nothing short of miraculous that 50 attorneys representing every state in the union agreed unanimously to do the right thing!
Middle ground?
We don't need no stinking middle ground.
you’re missing the phrase, “or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.” So, to make a law that took “so help me God” out of the Oath of Office is to breach the 1st amendment....can’t prohibit the free exercise thereof.
Hey Newdow, our new King will say whatever the hell he wants and the first amendent gives him that right.
He will be committing perjury when he takes the oath though.
...America is all ready divided. It has nothing to do with church and state, or the Congress shall make no law issue...
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