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It Breaks My Heart To See Israel's Stupidity (Tikkun Stupid Dopehead Alert - MEGABARF)
Sunday Times ^ | 1/04/2009 | Michael Lerner

Posted on 01/04/2009 4:13:33 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: FlingWingFlyer

“I think the old Star Trek did an episode about this.”

A Private Little War — Kirk reasons that as long as he arms his tribe with the same level as the other Klingon-supported tribe he can, once again, bypass The Prime Directive.


21 posted on 01/04/2009 4:30:10 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your powder dry, folks)
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To: goldstategop
Hey, maybe Israel should just send one of these over there. Now, you can talk disproportionate but well deserved.


22 posted on 01/04/2009 4:31:04 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
What idiot invented this concept of proportionate/disproportionate response.

If this idea carried sway in WWII...we would still be at war!

Robert McNamara, for one (see Fog of War). Based much, apparently, on what he participated in during WWII.

23 posted on 01/04/2009 4:31:16 PM PST by decimon
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Lerner is vermin.

Saint Paul was once, shall we say, determined in his defense of his faith. He wasn't vermin...he was an opportunity!

God still loves Lerner...and we (whether Jew or Gentile) are commanded to love our enemies.

24 posted on 01/04/2009 4:31:27 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Death to Hamas!)
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To: XeniaSt

That is a great article!


25 posted on 01/04/2009 4:32:23 PM PST by reg45
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To: goldstategop
Hamas can harass, but it cannot pose any threat to the existence of Israel.

Harass? Is that what numbnuts calls the wanton, random killing of Israeli civilians? My operative analogy is this: Hamas is using the rocket equivalent of a Saturday Night Special. Just because someone uses a clapped-out snub nosed 22 at long range doesn't mean he isn't trying to kill you. He'd use a Glock if he could get one. Hamas would use laser/gps guided munitions if they could get them.

So, according to this dilbert, as long as Hamas can only kill a few innocent civilians, Israel shouldn't really be all that upset.

Hamas' stated goal is to destroy Israel. A 'proportionate response' would be for Israel to destroy Hamas.

26 posted on 01/04/2009 4:33:32 PM PST by tbpiper (Al Gore is to Global Warming what Berney Madoff is to Finance .)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
What idiot invented this concept of proportionate/disproportionate response.

I heard John Bolton on Fox News this morning and both Michael Lerner and Pat Buchanan are mistating the concept.

Proportionate response means using enough force to end the problem agression before you -- not the tit for tat nonsense implicitely argued for by Michael Lerner.

John Bolton says the real meaning of proportionality is included in the Christan concept of a just war.

27 posted on 01/04/2009 4:34:50 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Lerner is vermin.
28 posted on 01/04/2009 4:34:51 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: XeniaSt
I e-mailed Steve Plaut about it. Just when you think these pagans haven't reached a new low, they try to show you they can surpass the last one!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

29 posted on 01/04/2009 4:35:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
What idiot invented this concept of proportionate/disproportionate response.

I'm sure it was a liberal. And Hamas counts on them to ensure its survival.

30 posted on 01/04/2009 4:35:53 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: goldstategop

Michael Lerner is an American rabbi, political activist, the editor of Tikkun, a progressive Jewish and interfaith magazine based in Berkeley, California.


31 posted on 01/04/2009 4:36:27 PM PST by kcvl
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To: goldstategop

Is this Hillary’s Michael Lerner?


32 posted on 01/04/2009 4:36:32 PM PST by rod1
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To: ScreamingFist

40 POINTS TO PEACE (vanity)

Take piece of paper. On it list, in no order of Importance,40 of the “MOST HOLY” sites in Islam.

Each Property damage or Life lost. Random choice on list is totally DESTROYED. It could even mean that MECCA gets LEVELED because the clerk handling the 40 SHEET sheet gets a PAPER CUT.


33 posted on 01/04/2009 4:36:54 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's "1984" .. to Conservatives- a WARNING, to Liberals - a TEXTBOOK)
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To: combat_boots
One of these days, Berkeley may need the help of the US military.
Here’s hoping the military remembers who these fruits are.

I've long wished our seminary were not in Berserkely.

34 posted on 01/04/2009 4:39:43 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Lerner is an old SDS Commie.

He now claims Capitalist work breeds alienation. Self hating Jews. Jews for a second holocaust featuring Michael Lerner

35 posted on 01/04/2009 4:39:45 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: rod1
Is this Hillary’s Michael Lerner?

YES !

36 posted on 01/04/2009 4:40:01 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: gwilhelm56

Oh yea and he calls Isreal “Imperalist” in his snide remarks. Just as he calls the USA “Imperalist” at the same time. What a hoot. To bad he is listened to by those in HIGH political office. He was Ms. Clintons spiritual consultant. Buch of incestious lefties.


37 posted on 01/04/2009 4:40:11 PM PST by therut
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To: gwilhelm56

Oh yea and he calls Isreal “Imperalist” in his snide remarks. Just as he calls the USA “Imperalist” at the same time. What a hoot. To bad he is listened to by those in HIGH political office. He was Ms. Clintons spiritual consultant. Buch of incestious lefties.


38 posted on 01/04/2009 4:40:21 PM PST by therut
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To: goldstategop

FRIENDS, LOVERS, COUNTRYMEN - COME STAND FOR ISRAEL!

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Tuesday, January 6th

12:30 PM
Across from the Israeli Consulate
42nd Street and 2nd Avenue

Thousands of rockets have been launched by the terrorist organization
Hamas into Southern Israel since Israel left Gaza for peace. Israel has the right to defend itself. Show your support for Israel.

Sponsored by: AMCHA Coalition for Jewish Concerns, Americans for a Safe Israel, Fuel for Truth, Mothers Against Terrorism, National Council of Young Israel, Stand with Us, Students for Peace in the Middle East, Zionist Organization of America

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Pro Israel Rally in Washington DC Rally in support of the people of Israel on Tuesday January 6th at 12:30 pm at the Israeli Embassy— 3514 International Dr. NW Washington DC . Please help spread the word spread about this rally which is sponsored by an Interdenominational Group of Rabbis in the Greater Washington Area who would like to invite the Christian community to join with them.

Counter Rally in Albany:

To all supporters of Israel. The PRC Palestinian Rights Committee will protest against Israel at the Capitol in Albany Tuesday Jan.6 at 4 PM on the State St. side. We need to get as many people as we can and counter demonstrate for Israel! We have to show the public and media that these supporters of Hamas terror are wrong!

Chazak v’ematz l’israel, strength and courage for Israel!


39 posted on 01/04/2009 4:40:31 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: goldstategop

1000 Palestinians for 1 Jew? That sounds about right.

Maybe Israel could lop off a rocket everytime one enters Israeli airspace. Heaven knows, they are better shots.


40 posted on 01/04/2009 4:40:37 PM PST by mckenzie7 ( ANNA THE RETIREE)
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