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The Unitarian Church and Obama's Religious Upbringing
American Thinker ^ | December 27, 2008 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 12/30/2008 10:24:03 AM PST by AndrewWalden

With the media carefully pretending not to notice, Barack Obama's choice to hold a memorial service December 23 for his late grandmother Madelyn "Toot" Dunham at Honolulu's First Unitarian Church underlines one part of the story of Barack Obama's leftist religious upbringing.

What is First Unitarian Church? Their website describes counter-recruitment efforts intended for "deconstructing the myth" ... "used in propaganda for the military (as with ads for Marine recruitment)."

Another set of clues come from the Honolulu Star-Bulletin February 8, 2003 description of First Unitarian's 2003 golden anniversary celebration -- complete with "Liberal Religion for 50 Years" T-shirts. The Star-Bulletin explains:

"The bumper stickers on cars outside the church gave an insight into its members' beliefs: ‘No War.' ‘If you want peace, work for justice.' ‘An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.'

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communism; hawaii; obama; obamaandgod; obamafamily; obamatransitionfile; religion; religiousleft; unitarian
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1 posted on 12/30/2008 10:24:04 AM PST by AndrewWalden
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To: AndrewWalden

I wonder what Jefferson would say if he could see what has happened to the Unitarian Church.


2 posted on 12/30/2008 10:25:31 AM PST by mnehring (Happy Holy-Days!)
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To: AndrewWalden

Ah, the “church of to whom it may concern” ... when (or if) they pray they begin “To whom it may concern;” or “Dear God, if there is a God, if you can, save my soul, if I have a soul.”
“You can believe anything you want” ...


3 posted on 12/30/2008 10:32:51 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: AndrewWalden

If his mother was a member of that church, it makes logical sense that to hold her funeral services there.


4 posted on 12/30/2008 10:35:09 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: mgc1122

The Unitarian Bible is called, “I’m OK - God’s OK”.


5 posted on 12/30/2008 10:36:09 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: AndrewWalden

Source: http://www.simplysharing.com/assuringlight/obama.htm

“So, I have a deep faith. I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people, that there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and that there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.” (snip)

He is saying, essentially, that all people of faith – Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone – know the same God. It is, perhaps, an unlikely theological position for someone who places his faith squarely at the feet of Jesus to take. But that depends on how you hear a verse from the Gospel of St. John, where Jesus says, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me,” Obama says.


6 posted on 12/30/2008 10:38:44 AM PST by donna (Sarah Palin: A Feminist, not a Conservative.)
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To: AndrewWalden

Ahh, yes. The Unitarian Church... the just-in-case-there’s-really-a-God church where atheists, agnostics and pagans find themselves when they’re really not quite 100% sure...


7 posted on 12/30/2008 10:38:59 AM PST by ScottinVA (All I needed to know about islam I learned on 9-11.)
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To: Lorianne

I meant his grandmother. If his grandmother was a memeber of that church, it makes logical sense to hold her funeral services there.

As well as the cremation and the seaside scattering of her remains and all the other things Obama is being criticized about, they may have been the grandmother’s wishes.

We don’t know, that’s private family information. However, if they were her final wishes, why shouldn’t Obama and his siter honor her wishes?


8 posted on 12/30/2008 10:41:15 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: donna

Obama the Church fathers knew about you before you came on the scene:

2Timothy 3

Godlessness in the Last Days

3You must understand this, that in the last days distressing times will come. 2For people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3inhuman, implacable, slanderers, profligates, brutes, haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to the outward form of godliness but denying its power. Avoid them!

6For among them are those who make their way into households and captivate silly women, overwhelmed by their sins and swayed by all kinds of desires, 7who are always being instructed and can never arrive at a knowledge of the truth. 8As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these people, of corrupt mind and counterfeit faith, also oppose the truth. 9But they will not make much progress, because, as in the case of those two men,* their folly will become plain to everyone.


9 posted on 12/30/2008 10:43:21 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: AndrewWalden
to hold a memorial service December 23 for his late grandmother Madelyn "Toot" Dunham

I don't think he cared a "hoot" about "Toot" - he was there to make sure his birth certificate coverup was complete.

10 posted on 12/30/2008 10:46:39 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Gun control is NOT about controlling GUNS; it's about CONTROLLING PEOPLE!)
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To: AndrewWalden
WOW! I knew that some of the Unitarians that I know are leftists, anti-Bush, anti-war, “peaceniks” but haven't spent much time thinking about their “religion” influences their attitudes but merely suspected that their attitudes seemed to fit with the collection of weirdos that hang out at the local Unitarian Church.
11 posted on 12/30/2008 10:49:34 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: LucyT

RUnning out the door but saw this headline - nothing earthshaking, but insight into the zero’s twisted dark little mind.


12 posted on 12/30/2008 10:49:49 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: AndrewWalden

Many non religious families use the liberal Unitarian/Universalist churches for events that our traditionally religious nation want held in a church, such as weddings and funerals.

Most churches want to have these events held in their churches if they are members or attend the church.

So this was probably the reason why the memorial was held there.

Unitarians are not Christians as they deny the Trinity, a basic Christian belief, the universalists believe in universal salvation.What you believe or how you live do not influence your salvation.

I had a friend that was a member of that “church” , and i went to many of their youth activities. God was never spoken of.


13 posted on 12/30/2008 10:50:13 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Lorianne

Those classic white, steepled churches you see on town greens in New England are usually Unitarian.
Many, if not most, “First Church”s in N.E. are Unitarian.
The others seem to be Congregationalist.


14 posted on 12/30/2008 10:50:19 AM PST by Bunkasaurus (I'm indecisive....or am I?)
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To: DarthVader

I think I’m going to read that chapter everyday for a while.

( It also reminded me of this: Unmarried women supported Barack Obama by a 70-to-29 percent margin.)


15 posted on 12/30/2008 10:53:17 AM PST by donna (Sarah Palin: A Feminist, not a Conservative.)
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To: mnehrling

My cousin by Marriage attended the Universalist church, and she told me that in the Universalist Church, a person can believe in anything that they want. I attended her funeral, and there was a woman minister officiating, and she said that this cousin was looking over the banisters of heaven at us, and wished to thank us all for coming.

Ecc9:”5”: For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing


16 posted on 12/30/2008 10:55:37 AM PST by tessalu
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Do Unitarians still discuss The Playboy Philosophy every Sunday?


17 posted on 12/30/2008 10:56:04 AM PST by donaldo
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To: AndrewWalden
Unitarians = Traitor & terrorist supporters.

Beacon Press is the Unitarian publisher. The original "Winter Soldier" book that smeared our troops was published by Beacon Press.

Beacon Press also publishes Bill Ayers.

http://www.beaconbroadside.com/broadside/2008/04/a-few-words-abo.html

18 posted on 12/30/2008 10:59:36 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: AndrewWalden

I assume, Andrew, that you have a copy of the last wishes of Barack’s grandmother, which are at odds with what Barack actually did, given that you write that it was Barack’s choice to hold the service where it was held.

Frankly, this is simply an excuse for a, ummm, writer to take 2 gratuitous swipes for the price of one. You get to smack both Unitarians and Barack at once.

That really takes some, uh, skill.


19 posted on 12/30/2008 11:09:00 AM PST by dmz
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To: mgc1122
I attended a Unitarian funeral some years ago. I could tell who the minster was, who died or who was bereaved...
20 posted on 12/30/2008 11:31:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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