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Utah startup hits geothermal jackpot
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 24, 2008 | Paul Foy

Posted on 12/24/2008 3:46:05 PM PST by decimon

PROVO — Within six months of discovering a massive geothermal field, a small Utah company had erected and fired up a power plant — just one example of the speed with which companies are capitalizing on state mandates for alternative energy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: alternativeenergy; energy; geothermalenergy
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Six months.
1 posted on 12/24/2008 3:46:06 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Wait until the SO2 and CO2 start leaking out of the wells.


2 posted on 12/24/2008 3:50:25 PM PST by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: decimon
Raser's find, about 155 miles southwest of Provo, could eventually power 200,000 homes. The company said it will begin routing electricity to Anaheim, Calif. within weeks.

Huh. Of course Kalifornia gets it first. Huh.

FMCDH(BITS)

3 posted on 12/24/2008 3:50:57 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: decimon

Just wait till the liberals realize we are taking all the heat out of the earth.


4 posted on 12/24/2008 3:57:08 PM PST by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: nothingnew
Of course Kalifornia gets it first. Huh.

If I have it right, that's because it's California mandating its power come from renewable energy sources. That could be a boon for Utah, Nevada and maybe other states.

5 posted on 12/24/2008 4:03:27 PM PST by decimon
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To: Ron Jeremy
Just wait till the liberals realize we are taking all the heat out of the earth.

Start practicing your mantra of "Renewable", "Renewable."

6 posted on 12/24/2008 4:05:58 PM PST by decimon
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To: nothingnew
Huh. Of course Kalifornia gets it first. Huh.
HUH what?

Apparently they want to take it wihout prejudice to where there's a demand and money to be made. Much to your dismay I'm pretty sure we still use US currency in California.

7 posted on 12/24/2008 4:08:09 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: decimon; neverdem; Gondring

If I have it right, that’s because it’s California mandating its power come from renewable energy sources. That could be a boon for Utah, Nevada and maybe other states.

Yes, but remember, EVERY Kilowatt of “mandated” or “alternative energy” fuels that is bought is MORE expensive, less reliable, and requires more infrastructure (and wastes more time, money and materials to build than conventional fuels.

Because every Kilowatt of “renewable” fuels requires a conventionally-powered turbine backing it up. While earning no money - until its needed.

Then the “backup rates” need to pay for everything.


8 posted on 12/24/2008 4:10:10 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: nothingnew

Probably because no one else is stupid enough to pay the rates they’ll charge per Kilowatt.

I hope the cost is high enough to make Ahnuld cry.


9 posted on 12/24/2008 4:12:50 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: decimon

Better good check out the hot water in Susanville, California....


10 posted on 12/24/2008 4:13:21 PM PST by pointsal
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This ought to be good...
11 posted on 12/24/2008 4:13:49 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Yes, but remember, EVERY Kilowatt of “mandated” or “alternative energy” fuels that is bought is MORE expensive, less reliable, and requires more infrastructure (and wastes more time, money and materials to build than conventional fuels.

Because every Kilowatt of “renewable” fuels requires a conventionally-powered turbine backing it up. While earning no money - until its needed.

Is that true of geothermal power plants? With solar or wind I would see that but I'd think geothermal to be constant.

And I'm not sure about the cost. That they can build plants so quickly bodes well for this, I would think.

12 posted on 12/24/2008 4:15:14 PM PST by decimon
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To: Ron Jeremy; BipolarBob
Just wait till the liberals realize we are taking all the heat out of the earth.

Oh, it's better than that!

Just wait til they find that the geothermal heat is generated by radioactive decay!!!



13 posted on 12/24/2008 4:17:20 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; decimon; neverdem
Actually, once the infrastructure is built, these can more than make up for the capital costs. The requirement makes that capital investment possible, though.

And not all alternative power requires 100% backup.

But even geothermal isn't limitless. Just like a groundwater well can deplete an aquifer, so can geothermal exploitation stress or deplete a heat aquifer.

14 posted on 12/24/2008 4:21:57 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

discovered????? lol, there is a massive thinning of the earth’s crust in that region... science idiots


15 posted on 12/24/2008 4:22:49 PM PST by Omglol
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To: decimon; neverdem; sionnsar
Geothermal is considered more reliable than solar (only potentially available 6 hours per day, and only at rated power for 4 hours per day) or wind (considered exceptionally good IF they can get power from a turbine 25% of the time - usually about 20% of the time produced usable power from a windmill).

But, geothermal has long been handicapped by very, very noxious emissions and leaks of (deadly, smelly, toxic, polluting) underground gasses into the air. The “water” that gets pumped down under high pressure is notorious for dissolving the sulfurs, acids, and pollutants in the rock.

These erode, corrode, and plug up the steam and hot water pipes - so the plant has to go down to replace the pipes and heat exchangers and turbine blades - which run very poorly when turning in a hot, metal-eating acid bath every minute or everyday.

Hopefully - this plant will prove a success. But few have been - though some are successfully kept up, but the source of heat runs down and the plant has to close to let the rock heat up again.

16 posted on 12/24/2008 4:24:11 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Because every Kilowatt of “renewable” fuels requires a conventionally-powered turbine backing it up.

Also note that many inefficient old powerplants can be retained as backup...it doesn't mean new construction is needed, nor that they would be otherwise running (without the alternative, new powerplants would be needed, rather than keeping old inefficient ones as backup).

Plus, like you point out, turbine generators can be easily fired up for peak use.

17 posted on 12/24/2008 4:24:48 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Any insight into “low-boil geothermal?” Sounds like they can now generate power from sites heretofore deemed too...tepid.


18 posted on 12/24/2008 4:25:57 PM PST by decimon
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Not to mention tectonic disturbances.


19 posted on 12/24/2008 4:28:14 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: BipolarBob
Wait until the SO2 and CO2 start leaking out of the wells.

There is a CO2 geyser near Green River Ut,that erupts a column of CO2 periodically. It was an oil well that went bad. Now a tourist attraction.

20 posted on 12/24/2008 4:30:32 PM PST by Red Boots
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