Posted on 12/24/2008 8:25:36 AM PST by Daddynoz
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
http://www.amendment-13.org/ratifications.html
Doesn’t look like it garnered the the required ratification in 3/4 state houses
She also extracted an oath that I would have to post multiple times if the matter ever came up. (sorry, I don’t know why it wasn’t showing the posts going through!)
OK. I think we get it.
:-)
If any Citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain any Title of Nobility or Honour, or shall, without the Consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, Pension, Office or Emolument of any kind whatever, from any Emperor, King, Prince or foreign Power, such Person shall cease to be a Citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any Office of Trust or Profit under them, or either of them.
IMHO this reads that one’s citizenship is voided if the title of nobility or honor is received from a foreign entity, king, emperor, etc. I don’t see that it applies to titles of honor received by an organization in the U.S.
... but I’m not an expert.
Article V of the Constitution requires that an amendment be ratified by three quarters of the states, so ratification by Virginia alone would not have made this proposed amendment (assuming it was lawfully proposed) effective.
That little "detail" aside, it is a real stretch to read into this a complete bar on lawyers in government, whatever "contemporary disgruntlement" there might have been.
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
Please tell me how this excludes lawyers.
you can’t inherit the title of “lawyer” or esquire.
It is akin to M.D., a educational degree that is earned.
No official can superceed a failing grade on a bar examination. (remember how many times john john kennedy took the bar exam?)
I think this is more about people being superstitious about the number 13. All the law library references resources to the constitution. (ie http://www.findlaw.com ) have the full compliment of PASSED amendments.
“Since the unlawful deletion of the 13th Amendment, the newly developing bar associations began working diligently to create a system wherein lawyers took on a title of privilege and nobility as “Esquires” and received the “honor” of offices and positions (like district attorney or judge) that only lawyers may now hold. By virtue of these titles, honors, and special privileges, lawyers have assumed political and economic advantages over the majority of U.S. citizens. Through these privileges, they have nearly established a two-tiered citizenship in this nation where a majority may vote, but only a minority (lawyers) may run for political office. This twotiered citizenship is clearly contrary to Americans’ political interests, the nation’s economic welfare, and the Constitution’s egalitarian spirit.”
I don’t argue with the author’s logic here. I don’t think the government should license any profession, really. But what does this have to do with the language of the supposed amendment as quoted? Can this guy read?
Read the amendment as written, then read it again. What sort of twisted legal argument could be based on this clause (if it were real) that would make it apply to lawyers? Of course, the author proceeds to give it. We’re supposed to believe that it was intended that all lawyers have their citizenship revoked? Come’on.
The "Messiah" had best be careful with that label...even if he is an illegal alien from Kenya and a major league commie scam artist.
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Thanks stockpirate. Something about this story leaks water.Both men were stunned to see this document included a 13th Amendment that no longer appears on current copies of the Constitution. Moreover, after studying the Amendment's language and historical context, they realized the principle intent of this "missing" 13th Amendment was to prohibit lawyers from serving in government. So began a seven year, nationwide search for the truth surrounding the most bizarre Constitutional puzzle in American history -- the unlawful removal of a ratified Amendment from the Constitution of the United States. Since 1983, Dodge and Dunn have uncovered additional copies of the Constitution with the "missing" 13th Amendment printed in at least eighteen separate publications by ten different states and territories over four decades from 1822 to 1860.To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. |
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Thanks CB.
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