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Robot [Navy] attack jet unveiled
Valley Press on ^ | Wednesday, December 17, 2008. | ALLISON GATLIN

Posted on 12/17/2008 2:54:45 PM PST by BenLurkin

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To: magslinger

ping


21 posted on 12/17/2008 4:51:16 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: Starwolf
No it isn't, but this is......
22 posted on 12/17/2008 4:54:10 PM PST by usmcobra (Go ask Obama for your change, and don't bug me!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The era of the fighter pilot is drawing to a close.

Tell that to the USAF who pulled out of JUCAS in favor a manned plane. Their silk scarf mafia really needs to get a clue

23 posted on 12/17/2008 5:22:35 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: Starwolf

The USAF is going to become the USAAC again within a decade. And those ex-fighter jocks are going to be scrambling for meaningful jobs that don’t involve FedEx or UPS. ;)


24 posted on 12/17/2008 5:27:14 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Mr. Jeeves; Starwolf

Wow...talk about needing to get a clue!

The smart thing would be not to put all your eggs in one basket.

It would take one sophisticated jamming and electronic warfare incident to bring this point home.

Ummmm “silk scarf mafia”?

Wow the air dominance envy is thick in here!


25 posted on 12/17/2008 6:29:21 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: BenLurkin
**can operate for tens of hours longer than a pilot can **?

Dose this it's metric?

26 posted on 12/17/2008 6:39:22 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( .)
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To: tpanther
Ummmm “silk scarf mafia”?

Wow the air dominance envy is thick in here!

Not really. Silk scarf mafia is USAF term anyway.

The USAF is seriously lagging in terms of serious UCAVs. It pulled out of JUCAS to support yet another manned bomber. It has nothing beyond the Predator family, even though it was the originator of the JUCAS concept and had excellent demonstrators in the form of the X-45A. The good news is that the silk scarf mafia has been declining in influence inside the USAF, though clearly not fast enough.

As for getting a clue, I suggest you attend your local AUVSI meetings and see what is being done to address the loss of control signal issues. There are multiple approaches suited to different kinds of UAVs. That what is good for a Raven is not what you use for Global Hawk. Regards, the issue has been well addressed.

Your are right about the USA is not putting all its eggs in one basket, it has the USN carriers and the acres of sovereign territory they represent.

27 posted on 12/17/2008 11:23:21 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: Mr. Jeeves

There is still an important place for manned aviation. However there are some in the USAF that have failed to appreciate the value of a mixed UAV/Manned combat aircraft force. This is really amusing when you consider the cat fight the USAF put up to be the UAV lead service. I expect the next Chief of Staff to get that more than the current one.


28 posted on 12/17/2008 11:26:54 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
The only requirement for inclusion in the Navair Pinglist is an interest in Naval Aviation.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

29 posted on 12/18/2008 2:26:26 AM PST by magslinger (I talk to myself but sometimes I like a third opinion.)
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To: BenLurkin
From 2005: Will Fly for Food
30 posted on 12/18/2008 7:00:02 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Flight to unmanned vehicles clouds future for military aircrews
31 posted on 12/18/2008 7:01:36 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Starwolf
Silk scarf mafia is USAF term anyway.

I've never heard it.

I got a kick out of F-15 pilots referring to themselves as nazis though.

That what is good for a Raven is not what you use for Global Hawk. Regards, the issue has been well addressed.

Well what's known and what will be known it's been addressed. It's the unknown I'm worried about.

32 posted on 12/18/2008 8:35:44 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: stockpirate

He COULDN’T spell ‘aweigh’ though.

Of course the ‘fool’ would probably argue till blue in the face that he is correct ....


33 posted on 12/18/2008 11:27:54 AM PST by xrmusn
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To: tpanther
That what is good for a Raven is not what you use for Global Hawk. Regardless, the issue has been well addressed.

Well what's known and what will be known it's been addressed. It's the unknown I'm worried about.

Like I said, AUVSI is a good place to start to alay your fears. Some of us have been working it for a long time. UAVs are not like RC models and haven't been for some time.

34 posted on 12/18/2008 4:35:17 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: usmcobra

Now THAT’S cool!


35 posted on 12/18/2008 4:52:45 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Dog; Ernest_at_the_Beach; csvset; Cap Huff; Marine_Uncle; FARS

Awesome.


36 posted on 12/18/2008 5:48:39 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Now if I was only say twenty with my Microsoft Simulator and Microsoft Combat Simulator and Aces of the South Pacific years of shooting down bogies and known enemy aircraft, could perhaps enlist specifically to fly this airframe. Darn it, guess at 62 they won't take me....heh heh.
One can only be highly impressed with this system.
37 posted on 12/18/2008 10:57:42 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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