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Man Wants Truth About Obama, Files Petition
The Examiner ^ | 12/9/08 | Jon Connolly

Posted on 12/09/2008 4:21:22 AM PST by pissant

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To: Star Traveler
I know you’re not going to see the missing documents.

Wow. I am in awe of all the talents on FR.

Say, swami? Got any hot stock picks?

41 posted on 12/09/2008 5:41:01 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: pissant
These will keep coming until the truth is known.

Because of his coverup, I want to see not only his birth records, but his school records, because of the possibility that he claimed to be a foreign student.

42 posted on 12/09/2008 5:44:23 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (NO Kenyan Usurpers in the White House - NObama !)
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To: nobama08
Why a COLB (certificate of live birth) forgery? That is the question. "

Could it be that he had to go with something that WAS on record, just in case it came to that. If he had forged the actual birth certificate, there would have been no way to get it into the official records in Hawaii.

So, maybe he altered the COLB to cover some other bit of information we weren't supposed to know, like nationality, religion, etc, that was derived from his actual birth certificate...wherever that is.
43 posted on 12/09/2008 5:44:23 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: pissant

another hero.

these brave people face real persecution at the hands of the messiah


44 posted on 12/09/2008 5:44:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

It doesn’t take a “clairvoyant” to see this one... LOL...


45 posted on 12/09/2008 5:46:41 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: stockpirate
Being a “libertarianist conservative” does that mean you don’t believe in the rule of law?

Being a lawyer as well means I believe in the rule of law. And if we are going to leave behind the rather specious if not utterly baseless claims of fraud and switch to a purely legal tack -- and let's even assume we can get beyond the issue of standing here, which none of these crackpots individuals ever will, see Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 504 U.S. 555 (1992) -- what you are left with is a case that directly implicates the doctrine of nonjusticeability, AKA the political question doctrine. See Baker v. Carr, 369 U.S. 186, 217 (1962).

But by all means, strap on the tinfoil hats, forget about opposing Obama (and offering viable, conservative alternatives) on anything so silly as actual policy, and enjoy the journey down the Road to Marginalization. And thanks for putting the FR in FRinge.

I for one have had enough of this crap, as well as the foolish, ignorant cranks that have been polluting this place of late.

46 posted on 12/09/2008 5:49:16 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

You said — “These will keep coming until the truth is known.”

Ummmm..., yeah, when Obama writes his memoirs... :-)

Something titled like “If I had done it!” LOL....


47 posted on 12/09/2008 5:49:18 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: pissant

it seems likely the powers that know the truth (if Obama’s own grandmother and Kenyan ambassador are to be believed)
would rather see Obama destroyed for a lifetime of living a lie, and America torn by Constitutional Crisis and civil disorder, by having it revealed AFTER he takes office

or to use it as blackmail- and blackmail potential is why Obama (about to become the commander of the worlds greatest military and nuclear power) would never even be able to obtain a US national security clearance - by standards that never seem to apply in his case


48 posted on 12/09/2008 5:50:37 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Star Traveler
Well, if you have no special powers to predict the future, why are you on this thread badgering those who are working to change the outcome from what you predict, if the outcome you predict is not what you would prefer?

It makes me wonder.

The 'It'll never fly, Orville' types are a dime a dozen.

49 posted on 12/09/2008 5:51:54 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

How is posting dozens of redundant articles on a conservative Web site “working to change the outcome”?


50 posted on 12/09/2008 5:57:22 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Smokin' Joe

You said — “Well, if you have no special powers to predict the future, why are you on this thread badgering those who are working to change the outcome from what you predict, if the outcome you predict is not what you would prefer?”

Well, no special powers to see the obvious facts staring you right in your face (and everyone else’s face...)

As I said before...


It’s apparent that Bush and the Bush Administration has done nothing to ensure that you see the documents, McCain and his campaign has done nothing to ensure you see the documents, even Palin has done nothing to ensure you see the documents, and the majority of the voting electorate is doing nothing to make sure you see the documents — and for sure, the Obama Campaign and incoming administration is going to *make sure* you do not see the documents — and lastly the Supreme Court is also making sure you don’t see the documents. LOL...


Since Bush doesn’t consider it a Constitutional issue to do anything about, and neither does McCain (nor Palin) and the Supreme Court is starting it’s “Denied...” routine, and the fact that a majority of the voting electorate has already voted Obama in by a wide margin, plus the fact that the Obama campaign and Administration is *definitely* not going to allow anything to be done about it, and *neither* are the Democrats who control Congress (and neither is the Electoral College, who consists of loyal Obots... it’s doesn’t take special powers, to see it... LOL...


51 posted on 12/09/2008 5:58:31 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: stockpirate

If you have supporting evidence that Obama or his campaign have spent $800,000 “fighting” this, please provide links or support.


52 posted on 12/09/2008 6:00:16 AM PST by norge
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To: pissant

“The Great King of Wannabes Caper of 2008!”

What is needed is a COMPLETE field day in Washington for sure—and maybe every state house and county throughout the land!

GOVERNMENT ARROGANCE IS OUT OF CONTROL!
Ref
http://www.network54.com/Forum/578302/

Quotes:
Lyn Nofziger

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Sooner or later, it will have to be the American people themselves that decide to put a stop to this out-of-control government arrogance. Perhaps the sentiments of the late Lyn Nofziger will be helpful at this point.

You will recall that Mr. Nofziger served as press secretary in Ronald Reagan’s administration as Governor of California and as a White House advisor during the Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan presidencies.

Shortly before he passed away, he composed a short treatise entitled “These Things I Believe.”
Here it is:

“That government should butt out.

That freedom is our most precious commodity and if we are not eternally vigilant, government will take it all away.

That individual freedom demands individual responsibility.

That government is not a necessary good but an unavoidable evil.

That the executive branch has grown too strong, the judicial branch too arrogant and the legislative branch too stupid.

That political parties have become close to meaningless.

That government should work to insure the rights of the individual, not plot to take them away.

That government should provide for the national defense and work to insure domestic tranquility.

That foreign trade should be fair rather than free.

That America should be wary of foreign entanglements.

That the tree of liberty needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

That guns do more than protect us from criminals; more importantly, they protect us from the ongoing threat of government.

That states are the bulwark of our freedom. That states should have the right to secede from the Union.

That once a year we should hang someone in government as an example to his fellows.”

Ref
Chuck Baldwin - News With Views
More LN Quotes....
Lyn Nofziger Wished He Was A libertarian
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53 posted on 12/09/2008 6:03:20 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: Scarchin
It appears that there are a host of people, even here, who are willing to roll over and play dead. Some will be convinced otherwise, others will wear their chains proudly.

Most of the articles posted are picked apart in short order, and anyone who reads along can pick them apart, too, if they do a little reading.

I would hope not all FReepers just sit by the computer, so when they talk with others, the information gets around. The more people who know about this, the more who will write congress, letters to the editor, etc.

Of course, there is the flip side of that:

People who have nothing better to do but to post comments complaining about redundant articles (instead of clicking on other posts) and people who gleefully proclaim that "All is lost!", laughing about it (LOL!).

Unless they are happy about the situation and gloating, or trying to hamper the efforts of others to get the word out by ridiculing those who might otherwise speak with other people on the topic, I do not pretend to understand their motives.

54 posted on 12/09/2008 6:08:37 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Good luck with that.


55 posted on 12/09/2008 6:10:17 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin

Thank You!


56 posted on 12/09/2008 6:12:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: King of Florida

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2141130/posts

Do you think this author and attorney is a “crackpot” as well?

If so, please answer:
Why does Obama not just produce the full hospital version birth certificate? (I believe a copy can be obtained for $12.)


57 posted on 12/09/2008 7:09:06 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: norge

This figure has been reported in the news for weeks.

Get off your lazy butt and google it yourself.

Do your own research.


58 posted on 12/09/2008 7:13:54 AM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 16th amendment, can we ignore the 16th amendment?)
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To: pissant
We’ll impeach his marxist butt

With a Pelosi Congress and a Reid Senate?

Fat chance.

If a GOP House and Senate couldn't make Clinton's numerous and nefarious crimes stick, certainly the Rats will be sure that Obama's won't stick.

Instead, I'm looking forward to electing one of those Nigerian Ambassadors who keep filling my in-box with pleas for financial rescue. One could promise all those Obama voters millions of dollars in thankful payoff and easily get elected.

Oh, wait a minute. Obama has already done that. Never mind. But don't worry. They'll come up with a different scam.

59 posted on 12/09/2008 7:30:24 AM PST by Gritty (Lib masses always come back for more, even after they find out they've been duped again-James Lewis)
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To: stockpirate

I have done my research, on google, on FR, on You Tube and scores of articles on this subject, and thousands of posts, here and elsewhere.

The $800,000 appears nowhere in the news that I could find. I have found at least 50 references to that figure on FR and more in other places, all without attribution(it started out at $200,000 and the latest version is “three law firms and millions of dollars”).

I have asked for supporting attribution several times. I have received one reply with anything of substance.

I don’t mean to challenge anyone...just wishing to find corroboration and attribution.

The point is, if it isn’t true, we shouldn’t be throwing it around on FR because it degrades the site and the credibility of FR and its posters.

If it is true, it should be provable.


60 posted on 12/09/2008 8:12:42 AM PST by norge
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