Posted on 12/08/2008 8:07:06 PM PST by Gator_that_eats_Dems
We will be chatting about the authenticity of Barack Obama's Birth Certificate. Tune in as we get perspective from both sides of the political spectrum.
Also, a little surprise bit of info pertaining to the issue
11:30pm EST tonight.
http://blogtalkradio.com/YoungGunConservative
In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.
How do you get the foul taste out of your mouth?
Talking about foul, those ‘76 Buccaneers were horrible,.
Obama has access to the actual BC when he was born under whatever name that was.
Upon his adoption by his mother’s second husband Obama’s original BC was sealed as his old identity no longer existed in the eyes of the law.
His adoption in Indonesia created a huge paper trail between two countries, the State of Hawaii and local government where is stepfather lived. He was issued a new BC and both governments created records of equal value and weight in term of his new identity under the law.
His mother would have to present his original BC for the adoption to take place. Where are those copies?
Was the BC with is new identity Barry Sotero issued by Indonesia? Where is that new BC with Lolo listed as his father?
Upon Barry Sotero’s return to the US he reached the age of emancipation and change his name to Barack Obama.
When did he do that? What was the legal process? He would have to notify multiple government agencies and this would have cost a tidy sum.
This process does not change your BC of adoption. In this case Barry Sotero. It only changes your name as you are not being adopted by anyone and the government is not developing a legal document of lawful parentage.
You are changing your name only.
Here is the rub, the copy of the BC you are seeing online is or could be issued to valid BC holders and might be the short form in lieu of a deep record search.
In other words the BC is a fraud. In order for Barack Obama to show a BC that contains his name of Barack Obama and his father and mother as we know it, the state of Hawaii would only have a long form document.
Barack Obama has access to his original BC before he was born but it is no longer valid. He can present either the short form, which many of us have seen or present the long form but they are not valid.
You... cannot change your adoption records or the alteration of those records for the purpose of adoption.
You can call yourself John Wayne and even legally change your name. But, your birth certificate will still say you are Marion Robert Morrison, born in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.
There!
I too was adopted, along with my brother and sister, when I was seven. My background is identical to Obama’s except that my adoption took place in two states and I have known my real father and all my relatives all my life.
I too looked into changing my last name back to my original, sometimes thinking about a heritage legacy thing. Obama changed his name to suit the identity he wanted. I probably won’t change my name as I would not hurt my dad’s feelings (you can call him stepfather).
I love artcles that start with “possible evidence”.
Was your original birth certificate sealed?
If so, can you access it?
That’s enough of this crud, he’s been elected by an ignorant electorate and he’s now our President, so please, stop this.
THe more people chase this invisible rabbit down the hole, the more we look like Dan Rather with his report.
Sp please, let’s start working on solutions and stop chaing dreams.
“Sp please, let’s start working on solutions and stop chaing dreams.”
No, you let people have their say, and if you don’t like it go elsewhere. It is not unreasonable for persons to want Mr. Obama to clarify legitimate questions. The will of voters only count when constitutionally applied. If they voted for an individual that was not constitutionally qualified, then those votes are meaningless. A vote in an election does not constitutionally amend the constitution.
BTW - Other than having a new election in four years (two for congress)...there are no viable “solutions.”
The SCOTUS needs to stop punting and hear these cases out.
He is not the president yet.
That he has allegedly spent over $800,000 to keep from producing a $10 document thereby ending the controversy indicates that he may in fact not be eligible for the presidency.
LOL! True. But redemption came in January, 2003 with the Super Bowl.
I thought Bush was our President. Hell, legally Hussein isn't even President-elect yet.
What I will say to you sir is you are free to express your well respected thoughts...
What I want to say, in my loudest voice from the top of the highest mountain is:
First solution is you STFU and go to a knitting thread...leave this for real patriots so you can sit on the end of a very long dock on Golden Pond in your wheelchair, you freakin' dinosaur, while you dream that no one takes away your evenings of drinking boxed wine from your refrigerator. Have your nurse wheel you back in to bed and leave the country to people that care.
Of course I would never say that because I have manners and respect for FReepers who have been here forever and are willing to be defeated.
And BTW, less boxed wine and more spell checker is recommended...
This is the big time, bud. Go away if you cannot take it.
My original BC is sealed and that was done upon my adoption in 1970. I can access it and just need to fill out some forms.
I too looked into changing my last name back to my original, sometimes thinking about a heritage legacy thing
My father was adopted by a man who’s heritage is quite different than his own. I know my fathers, fathers last name. It is the name of a county in Ireland. While I had never seriously considered changing my own last name, I will more than likely use the Irish county name as a middle name for a child if ever I am blessed with one.
I sure agree with you though - your real father, the man who raised you would be terribly hurt if you changed your name. It would be such an insult.
well said.
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