Posted on 11/30/2008 11:16:35 AM PST by rabscuttle385
If Paul couldn’t win the Republican primary, what makes you think he would have won in the general election?
Interesting that you ignore the Victory in Iraq which will allow some troops to be withdrawn though tens of thousands will remain for years. This victory would have never occurred had Paul gotten his wish to surrender to Terror.
What a screwy response. Since when is an argument that the Iraq War was a necessary action to our National Security indicative of a “gung ho attitude”?
Your point was that only those without military experience support the War. Us “Gung Ho” types. Hence the real military folks opposed it by your logic. Nice to hear you are not claiming that. Maybe it was another of your buddies using the “Chicken Hawk” argument the radical Left loves so much.
Beautifully explained.
It was this unfettered military interventionism that has contributed greatly to effectively bankrupting this country. And in doing so, it has not made us "stronger" but weaker; we are less secure in every respect, financially, militarily and in vulnerability to attack. The bill on this American bravado in doing anything we want, anywhere in the world we want, just came due -- and it is more than we can afford.
One would think that self-identified "conservatives" would realize that.
Organized Islam and Islamists?
Then why has the US repeatedly sacrificed Christians in the Balkans and in the Middle East to give Muslims more even more political power than they have ever had before? Then why has Bush left our borders virtually unprotected from Islamic terrorist entry to the US? Then why was Bush running around, spouting "Islam means Peace" when in fact, Islam really means "Submission"? Then why have we repeated brought Muslims to the US by the the truckload, knowing full well that a substantial number of them think that "terrorism against the US" is justified and a good number are even willing to help carry out those attacks? You call this "protection"?
But maybe it's Russia and China who you see as our "real enemies".
Then why did we allow Russia and China to hold so much of the US debt (largely created by all these military interventions), that the US economy is virtually mortgaged to Russia and China?
If these are all "US enemies", then we have just been delivered up to them on a silver platter, courtesy of GWB & Company!
Well, I am not convinced, but I WILL re-read it. Neat thing about talking with people I disagree with is that I can always learn something new!
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Those newsletters weren’t so much as racist as they were simply politically incorrect but the hard truth. They’re only “racist” if you’re using Al Sharpton’s judgment.
Paul is more of a Republican than most Republicans, sorry.
I voted for him in the primaries and will never forget the memories of ordinary folks going to rallies and supporting him using their own money and time.
How is that possible? If this were true, Paul would have been the GOP nominee. Those Obamanoids you mention crossed over and voted for McCain. Duh.
Don't expect forgiveness from the GOP
ROFL. Trust me, the last thing we need is the GOP.
- or acceptance from the Democrats
Democrats already got acceptance from RINOs selling their souls.
The GOP will rebuild with or without you and RP.
I'm sure they will. And by then, the United States will be completely unrecognizable or a satellite state of China.
BTW, anyone seen RP lately?
A better question is: Has anyone seen the Republican's spine lately?
There'd be no 3rd party candidates, both the LP and the CP already endorsed Paul when he announced his candidacy. That bloc of voters that the MSM is always talking about - the undecideds and independents - these are libertarian voters who just want to be left alone. Paul would attract these voters as well.
Plus Paul would have provided a huge contrast to Obama in terms of policies instead of agreeing with Obama on global warming, the bailout, immigration like McCain did.
BTW Paul would have won the Nevada & Louisiana primaries if not for collusion among the other remaining GOP candidates.
Protecting our nation?
Oh you mean as Bush looked on, and publicly encouraged millions of *unknowns* to enter this country illegally, during war time, as he rationalized these people entering "illlegally" during war, as, "Just hard working folks". In reality, he had not a clue who these millions were that were entering illegally, as Americans are forced to pay billions for this lawlessness.
If that were not enough, he labels those American volunteers that had a belly full of this government sponsored lawlessness, as "vigilantes". lol...
You might not of realized it slick, but due to these Bush policies of the past 8 years, our entire system, all the way down to our electoral process has been undermined and compromised.
You cannot flood a country with billions in counterfeit cash, or millions of people illegally, with compromising and undermining our system. Protecting our Nation?
His administration has made American citizenship, all but pointless.
While he was protecting our massive nuclear submarine fleets that roam the seven seas from Saddam, our homeland, from our economy to our borders and sovereignty, suffered immensely.
Protecting our nation?
You like him, seem to not have a clue as to the damage done.
"One would think that self-identified "conservatives" would realize that."
Many self identified "conservatives" are social conservatives who want to turn back the clock to 1980. And in fact, if I had a time machine, I wouldn't mind joining them -- 1980 was a good year and I looked really fabulous! But unfortunately, life doesn't work that way -- and neither does politics.
The rest are neocons who are sure that no amount of military spending is "too much", no amount of "showing the world whose boss" is too much, no amount of huffing and puffing up their chests is "enough" -- armchair warriors who, in the service of their own inflated egos, exploit the lives of those brave ones who serve our country by sending them anywhere and everywhere, even into unwinnable and untenable situations, just because they can. And they think that this attitude makes them "great patriots". Frankly, they make me sick.
BTTT!
“If Paul couldn’t win the Republican primary, what makes you think he would have won in the general election?”
If more people had listened to him instead of his detractors he might have won a few primaries too. We can play this “what if” game until hell freezes over and it won’t change a thing. We’re still going to have to live through several years of Obama and maybe worse. Instead, we need to get behind a candidate and ignore all those who try to pick him/her apart. No candidate is perfect. They all lack some quality that some of us think is absolutely needed to win.
Paul’s biggest problem was his lack of camera presence when on TV. Too many of us remember Reagan and the way he spoke to us. If a candidate can’t talk to us that same way we tend to think poorly of him. Reagan was an actor, for God’s sake. He made his living talking like that. Ron Paul is a obstetrician who talks to individuals in a much more personal setting. If he were elected King of the world he’d still talk in his quiet - some say whiney - voice. Orator or whiner, he’s still right on more points than not. He failed to carry the primaries alright, but not because he was wrong, it was because we were wrong to expect him to shake off his skin and step forth as another Ronald Reagan. When he couldn’t do that we dropped him like a hot rock.
If Ron Paul had won the election instead of Obama he would have been in possession of the same set of problems Obama now has. BHO wanted to ‘bring ‘em all back’ too but now that he’s faced with the task he’s taken a somewhat different tack. Ron Paul would have been equally unable to simply ‘bring ‘em back.’
But - and this is an interesting “but” - Ron Paul would have put more pressure on the financial secto0r to clean up its act, perhaps even balancing the budget and reducing the national debt. Obama won’t. You can take that to the bank.
I was trying to be subtle, but thanks for the correct interpretation...
How do you get “wants”? Clinton allowed the flames of this fire to get out of control. When the Blackhawk Down incident occurred and Clinton pulled the military out of Somolia Bin Laden concluded that the US was a Paper Tiger and it was incapable of taking casualties. Hence the attacks continued and grew in intensity.
Remember the Embassy in Kenya being bombed, the Embassy in Tanzania, the attack on the USS Cole.
Only the ignorant or liars claim that this was a non-problem that Bush exploited. Saddam’s money was spread throughout the terror underground. He trained, supported and exported Terrorists.
Left uncontrolled these wild animals will destroy us all. They can be mollified only with our blood or submission to Allah.
Ron Paul does not understand that our security begins in Baghdad. He is no better than a member of the Party of Treason. By the time he would fight we would be incapable of victory.
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