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'Card Check' Best Hope for UAW? (Hey! Let's turn the whole country into Detroit!)
MSNBC ^ | November 21, 2008 | Tom Curry

Posted on 11/21/2008 11:20:17 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative

WASHINGTON - Congress returns after Thanksgiving to decide whether to approve a $25 billion loan to General Motors, Chrysler, and Ford. The future of United Auto Workers members in Michigan and other states is at stake.

“It appears to me we possibly have one too many auto makers,” said Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., who opposes the loan.

But he said, “even if they went through Chapter 11, there will be U.S. auto makers in this country. I don’t think there’s anybody in this country that really thinks if they went through some re-organization that we’re not going to end up with U.S. auto makers at the end of that. We are.”

But it will be an industry in which fewer workers are represented by the United Auto Workers. And that doesn’t cause Republicans like Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., any regret.

“I think the United Auto Workers and some of their wage demands and work habit demands have hurt the industry,” Sessions said.

One advantage the Honda and Hyundai plants in Alabama have over the General Motors, Chrysler, and Ford plants in Michigan is lower labor costs. That's because, in part, auto workers in Michigan are represented by the UAW and workers in Alabama aren’t.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: autoindustry; cardcheck; obama; obamatransitionfile; uaw; unionmadejunk; unions
Spread misery equally. That's liberalism.
1 posted on 11/21/2008 11:20:18 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative
OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY
2 posted on 11/21/2008 11:24:33 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: St. Louis Conservative
The South should be organized. Just think: the South can aspire to be like Michigan.
3 posted on 11/21/2008 11:25:58 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Unions are an artifact of the 19th and 20th century. Card check will not help them a bit.

Too many companies have gone bankrupt whilst unionized. Way too many.


4 posted on 11/21/2008 11:28:35 AM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Not a single union gives a flying rats behind about their constituents. All the union cares about is their dues collection and political leverage.


5 posted on 11/21/2008 11:29:32 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: texmexis best

If card check passes, then you just watch the exodus of every manufacturing business go to Mexico and elsewhere. Card check would decimate American industry.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 11:34:35 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: texmexis best

Unions are an artifact of the 19th and 20th century. Card check will not help them a bit.

Too many companies have gone bankrupt whilst unionized. Way too many.”

If I am running a small company, and the Union comes in and says I have to unionize my employees, the doors will be closed by the end of the day.


7 posted on 11/21/2008 11:47:24 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: St. Louis Conservative
If card check passes, then you just watch the exodus of every manufacturing business go to Mexico and elsewhere. Card check would decimate American industry.

The rats have a plan to deal with this contigency. The rats are not stupid. They are control-driven ideologues who enjoy responding to negative side effects. The rats will try to use the threat of tariffs to keep the jobs here. The net result will be much higher auto costs for the consumer.

8 posted on 11/21/2008 12:14:41 PM PST by businessprofessor
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Ok, then watch them enact protectionist tariffs that plunge us into another Great Depression.

They may want to do that, however even they can’t be that stupid. There have to be some adults left in the Democrat party.


9 posted on 11/21/2008 12:19:50 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative; All
“even if they went through Chapter 11, there will be U.S. auto makers in this country. I don’t think there’s anybody in this country that really thinks if they went through some re-organization that we’re not going to end up with U.S. auto makers at the end of that. We are.”

Sessions makes the same mistake many others make. He cannot tell the difference between manufacturing and final assembly. There's a huge difference and most of these lawmakers have never worked in a Manufacturing Environment. They simply do not know of what they speak.
10 posted on 11/21/2008 1:17:21 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Use the UAWs pension.

They could bail out the three several times over.

Crush the UAW and each member then see a resurgence in US auto making.


11 posted on 11/21/2008 2:47:09 PM PST by NoLibZone (Obams success proves that Ayers type violence is respected by the left. Let's do likewise.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

The UAW has made it this long off the backs of conservatives who believed in “BUY AMERICAN.”

The UAW took conservatives’ hard-earned money, paid to buy products basically to support America, and used it to help elect a Marxist.

No thanks.

Time to buy American-made Toyotas and Hondas and let the Big 3 and the UAW die gracefully. Or whatever.


12 posted on 11/21/2008 3:46:19 PM PST by fightinJAG (No choice but to boycott the Big 3 automakers, else we feed the Bailout Hole.)
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To: ridesthemiles

the doors will be closed by the end of the day.
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Wanna bet that doing that will be considered an unfair labor practice in any legislation that congress passes?


13 posted on 11/21/2008 6:48:56 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: St. Louis Conservative

If they pass this then the Democrats are more stupid than I thought. They will kill another industry through extortion and theft. They destroy everything they touch, from schools, to industry to fetuses. Is there anything that we can keep safe from their political gluttony?

Do away with these unions, they are of the past and would die naturally unless politically preserved through this self-promoting extortion process they have with the Democrats. The Democrats enlarge the unions’ extortive powers and the unions provide campaign money and workers.

It’s done. Time to retrain and get better jobs.


14 posted on 11/22/2008 7:59:50 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (Labor Union Extortion Leads To Economies Like Michigan)
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