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Oil touches 3-1/2 year low under $50 as demand weighs
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 11/20/08 | Reuters

Posted on 11/20/2008 10:26:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK (Reuters) – Oil dropped more than 3 percent on Thursday, touching the lowest level since May 2005 as record U.S. job losses intensified concerns of a long and deep global recession and further crushed demand expectations.

The U.S. government reported the number of workers making new claims for jobless benefits last week surged to the highest in 16 years, helping to push down global equity markets.

U.S. crude fell $1.81 to $51.81 a barrel by 1251 p.m. EST after earlier touching $49.75, marking the lowest level since May 25, 2005, when prices hit $49.58.

London Brent crude shed $1.39 to $50.33 a barrel.

"The unemployment data was yet another ugly data point in a seemingly never ending stream of poor economic numbers," said Michael Wittner, global head of oil research at Societe Generale.

"What makes it hard to call a bottom is that even when oil fundamentals firm up, if we're still having these waves of deleveraging it can overwhelm even the oil fundamentals."

Oil has tumbled nearly $100 from record highs over $147 a barrel struck in July, as the economic crisis strangles demand growth in large consuming nations such as the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crudeoil; demand; energy; energyprices; oil; weighs
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1 posted on 11/20/2008 10:26:08 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Perfect, just in time to justify increasing gas taxes.

/democrat


2 posted on 11/20/2008 10:29:29 AM PST by Zeddicus
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To: NormsRevenge

Funny, nobody in the media ever mentions “conservation” as one cause for reduced demand or “Drill Here, Drill Now” as a cause for the bursting of the oil bubble.


3 posted on 11/20/2008 10:31:19 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008/11/fall-in-gas-prices-less-driving-315b.html


4 posted on 11/20/2008 10:33:02 AM PST by petercooper (1/20/13 - Change I can believe in.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Funny, nobody in the media ever mentions “conservation” as one cause for reduced demand or “Drill Here, Drill Now” as a cause for the bursting of the oil bubble.

I am not an economist but somehow I doubt that people chanting "Drill Here, Drill Now" caused a decrease in demand for oil in China and India.

However, with oil at under $50,00 there will be little incentive to expand E&P in the United States.

5 posted on 11/20/2008 10:34:45 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: NormsRevenge
Quite a sharp looking point on this graph...


6 posted on 11/20/2008 10:35:43 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Funny, nobody in the media ever mentions “conservation” as one cause for reduced demand or “Drill Here, Drill Now” as a cause for the bursting of the oil bubble.

I am not an economist but somehow I doubt that people chanting "Drill Here, Drill Now" caused a decrease in demand for oil in China and India.

However, with oil at under $50,00 there will be little incentive to expand E&P in the United States.

Thus if you want to Drill Here, Drill Now, you will need to have oil at least $85.00 if not $100.00.

7 posted on 11/20/2008 10:36:18 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

And also a great time to start buying oil again for when it goes up. Oil will likely languish in the $40 range for quite some time but eventually it will come back.


8 posted on 11/20/2008 10:37:40 AM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: misterrob

Yes, it is time to buy as much oil as possible from from foreign sources and put it in the Petroleum Reserves.


9 posted on 11/20/2008 10:40:02 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: misterrob

it will go up when the economy goes back up...won’t happen with obama in charge


10 posted on 11/20/2008 10:40:26 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: trumandogz

The article listed reductions in the U.S. as a reason for the decline.

Oil’s decline began the day Bush lifted the executive ban on offshore drilling. Much of the “demand” has been fabricated by the enivowacko movement and those invested in alternative technologies (which are often the same people).

I have no desire for oil to be high to achieve “Drill Here, Drill Now.” Just the threat of increased domestic drilling knocked the top off the bubble, imo.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 10:45:07 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: thackney

Quite the prick, indeed. Thanks!


12 posted on 11/20/2008 10:45:46 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: trumandogz

Hoarding of oil, and other commodities, was one reason the prices increased so drastically.


13 posted on 11/20/2008 10:46:33 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: trumandogz

Even China understands that much.

China Expands SPR Facility As Crude Falls
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm?aid=1026

But we haven’t added to ours since July.

http://www.spr.doe.gov/dir/dir.html


14 posted on 11/20/2008 10:46:33 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Hoarding of oil, and other commodities, was one reason the prices increased so drastically.

Stocks of oil did not increase prior to the run up of oil.


15 posted on 11/20/2008 10:47:55 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rightinthemiddle

“Oil’s decline began the day”

All futures traded commodities (except gold) decline began several months ago when the hedge funders and others stopped parking money in options and cashed out.

Their holdings are now cash, dollars, notes, yen.

The thinking is that 9 months from now they will start parking their money back in commodities trades and, hopefully, American stocks.

All these headlines about end user “demand” causing recent price major trends are from journalistic hacks. Their depressing and inaccurate headlines help talk down the economy, but nowhere near as much as Paulson’s and Bush’s rambling statements on the economy.


16 posted on 11/20/2008 10:56:00 AM PST by Shermy ("And so, of course, we've got a deficit, but I know we can grow out of the deficit" Bush II -2004)
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To: rightinthemiddle
The article listed reductions in the U.S. as a reason for the decline.

Actually, the price of oil is not solely determined by demand in the U.S. but also the world demand. And as there is less demand for oil on the World Market, the price of oil will fall.

Oil’s decline began the day Bush lifted the executive ban on offshore drilling.

So, you mean that the price of oil would not have gone up to more than $140.00 a barrel if President Bush had lifted the executive ban on offshore drilling 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 or 2007?

I have no desire for oil to be high to achieve “Drill Here, Drill Now.”

Sorry, but you cannot have both expanded domestic E&P and cheap oil. In order to make it profitable to expand domestic E&P we will need to have oil at far above $50.00 a barrel. You see, people in industry would like to make a profit when drilling for new sources of oil in the United States!

17 posted on 11/20/2008 10:56:18 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: thackney

Are those numbers for China and India? Not arguing, just asking.


18 posted on 11/20/2008 10:56:39 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: trumandogz

What do you think the price of oil should be?


19 posted on 11/20/2008 10:58:11 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Has the demand really dropped that much since it was $4/gal?


20 posted on 11/20/2008 10:58:14 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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