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CA: Schwarzenegger suggests court should block Prop. 8 (they blocked Prop 187 in 1994)
Sac Bee ^ | 11/17/08 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 11/17/2008 8:52:31 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Sunday he will not join legislative Democrats in a court fight against Proposition 8 despite his opposition to the same-sex marriage ban, but he believes the courts ultimately should and will allow such marriages in California.

The Republican governor reiterated on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" that, "for me, marriage is between a man and a woman. But I don't want to ever force my will on anyone."

"I think that the Supreme Court was right by saying (a gay marriage ban) was unconstitutional and that everyone should have the right," Schwarzenegger said. "So the Supreme Court, you know, I think ought to go and look at that again. And we'll go back to the same decision. … I think that they will. And I think that the important thing now is to resolve this issue in that way."

Schwarzenegger compared the legal battle over same-sex marriage to a 1948 challenge in which the California Supreme Court declared a ban on interracial marriage unconstitutional.

While voters approved a constitutional ban on gay marriage through the ballot process this month, Schwarzenegger suggested precedent exists for ruling some initiatives unconstitutional. He cited the fact that courts blocked Proposition 187, which voters approved in 1994 to deny public benefits, such as health care and education, to illegal immigrants.

Proposition 8 passed with 52 percent of the vote. Opponents of Proposition 8 filed challenges after the Nov. 4 election challenging the initiative on grounds that it was an illegal constitutional revision, and as such should have required two-thirds approval.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldlegacy; block; california; prop8; schwarzenegger
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That he was elected is a testament to the gullibility of the California electorate.

That he was re-elected is a testament to the insanity of the California electorate.

1 posted on 11/17/2008 8:52:31 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

What an incredible flake.


2 posted on 11/17/2008 8:54:17 AM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gotta love those RINOs.


3 posted on 11/17/2008 8:54:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Republican governor reiterated... "for me, marriage is between a man and a woman. But I don't want to ever force my will on anyone." :

Force his will? Prop. 8 was passed by the people, you twit.

4 posted on 11/17/2008 8:55:44 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: NormsRevenge

Why no recall?


5 posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:35 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Million Minuteman March (Spring 2009))
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To: NormsRevenge

The alternatives were horrible, still, ahhnold has shown himself to be even a bigger flake than anyone thought possible. Lets see, he doesn’t want to force his will on anyone but he does want the court to force its will against the majority. Yah, real clear thinking there dumbinator.


6 posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:37 AM PST by HerrBlucher (We will "Barry" you -- Nikita Kruschev)
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To: NormsRevenge

“But I don’t want to ever force my will on anyone.”

Like the murder of the unborn, this “legitimizes” their stance.

Let him try this on Judgement Day. That’ll really go far!


7 posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:54 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This man should never have been in government.

He does not even understand fundamental Constitutional principles.

Statements like these embolden the Homosexual crowd to get rioting until they get their way.

He should have stated that he will uphold the lawful results of this election and crack heads of anyone violating First Amendment rights of law abiding citizens.

He is not only incompetent, he is dangerous.


8 posted on 11/17/2008 8:58:12 AM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: exit82

Arnold has proven to be a girlie-man of the highest order.


9 posted on 11/17/2008 8:59:44 AM PST by rom (Voted for Ron Paul in the primary. Voted against Obama in the general and FOR Palin.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

He has no problem “forcing his will” on every ballot initiative he supported. Including bond initiatives I’d rather my money not be paid into...

In fact, I’d prefer not to pay CA income tax, but somehow Gov. Schwarzenegger and the state of California have imposed their will and force upon me and I thereby must.

Why am I even wasting my time pointing out the inane fallacy within his sentences above???...I suppose its just a way to express my frustration.


10 posted on 11/17/2008 8:59:53 AM PST by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: NormsRevenge

Why again is he a Republican? Can’t for the life of me figure out why.


11 posted on 11/17/2008 9:02:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: NormsRevenge

Liberals always like the courts legislating from the bench. Schwarzy is no different.

Back in 1996 the SCOTUS decision in Romer v Evans which took away the majority of Colorado voters rights (53.4%), that had voted down special rights for homos. A decision, btw, that CJ John Roberts fought for as a member of his law firm.


12 posted on 11/17/2008 9:02:26 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m always amused when the libs equate homosexual rights with anti-discrimiation actions that eliminated racial barriers. If I were black or any other minority, I’d be PO’d by it.


13 posted on 11/17/2008 9:05:15 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: rom
Lol!

Eight posts before "girlie-man".

Maria must be putting something in his food.

14 posted on 11/17/2008 9:06:20 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: NormsRevenge

Prop 187 was a law, not a constitutional amendment. It was overturned by a federal, not a state, court.

I believe the laws against interracial marriage were also laws, not part of the constitution.

If courts overturn constitutional amendments, it means the last gasp of rule “by the people.”

Judges will be supreme, with not even a pretense of allowing the people the ability to overrule them if they choose.

The most peculiar part of this is that the judges have the power they do only because the people revere the constitution, which reverence the judges are doing their best to destroy.


15 posted on 11/17/2008 9:09:50 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Why stop at same sex marriage—why not allow close relatives to marry as well. Doesn’t a ban on incest deprive them of their rights in the same way gays are being denied their rights?


16 posted on 11/17/2008 9:10:27 AM PST by Burkean
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To: Sherman Logan

I was thinking the same thing but through a different question. The citizens changed the State Constitution. How can a State court, subject to that very constitution, now decide that the change is not ... what??? valid???

That would be like SCOTUS saying that the First Amendment is not valid. If that is their ruling, I would like to see the tortured leaps of logic that they came to in order to come to that decision.


17 posted on 11/17/2008 9:15:25 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: NormsRevenge

I think Arnold spent too much time in the Gym especially the showers and it is starting to tell.


18 posted on 11/17/2008 9:24:01 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: skeeter
What an incredible flake

And a gutless one at that.

If he truly believes Proposition 8 was wrong then he should add his name to the court appeal.

Proposition 8 is the will of the people and the actor should support the will of the governed. Otherwise what good are these "Propositions" if nobody enforces them.
19 posted on 11/17/2008 9:24:13 AM PST by RedMonqey (Embracing my "Inner Redneck")
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To: Sybeck1

Why no recall?

Garamendi would become Gub.. not much difference, quite frankly, at this point who is in office.

Now if Tom had been elected Lt. Gub, but they aren’t exactly bosom buddies ,, sooo ;-)


20 posted on 11/17/2008 9:27:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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