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New Jersey Legislature Advances Anti-50 Caliber Threat [vote is tomorrow]
Fifty Caliber Institute ^ | November 14, 2008 | John Burtt

Posted on 11/16/2008 12:26:13 PM PST by Daffynition

Last week FCI staff joined forces with several other gun rights organizations on the floor of the New Jersey state legislature to prevent the passage of A-2116, a proposed 50 caliber ban. FCI Chairman John Burtt joined Scott Bach, President of the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs (ANJRPC) and Bob Viden, NRA Board Member to provide New Jersey legislators with accurate information on the effects A-2116 would have on the community of law abiding gun owners from that state. After two hours of testimony, the New Jersey Assembly Judiciary Committee passed A-2116 (http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills/A2500/2116_I1.PDF) by a vote of 5-1.

As passed, the legislation will ban virtually all firearms .50 caliber and over. While the Committee attempted to address some of the concerns of gun owners and sportsmen, it still bans many popular hunting guns, historical American firearms, and large bore target firearms, based on alleged public safety concerns. Included are historical American firearms and replicas, including those from the Revolutionary War and Civil War eras. The legislation makes the fundamental mistake of banning guns based on the size of the barrel rather than punishing criminal behavior. Proponents of the ban attempted to demonize a whole class of firearms and their owners by claiming the only intent of these firearms is criminal misuse.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey
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From Bill No. 2116

(1) The following firearms:

Algimec AGM1 type

Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12"

Armalite AR-180 type

Australian Automatic Arms SAR

Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms

Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms

Bushmaster Assault Rifle

Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900

CETME G3

Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type

Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series

Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types

Demro TAC-1 carbine type

Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types

FAMAS MAS223 types

FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms

Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns

G3SA type

Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1

Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms

M1 carbine type

M14S type

MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms

PJK M-68 carbine type

Plainfield Machine Company Carbine

Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF

SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types

SKS with detachable magazine type

Spectre Auto carbine type

Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type

Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types

Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms

USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun

Uzi type semi-automatic firearms

Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms

Weaver Arm Nighthawk.

(2) Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms

1 posted on 11/16/2008 12:26:13 PM PST by Daffynition
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Add muzzleloaders and collectible historical firearms, antiques and replicas that would be banned by A2116. It is ironic that many of these firearms were used by early American patriots to win the very freedoms that A2116 seeks to take away.

More listed here

2 posted on 11/16/2008 12:27:59 PM PST by Daffynition ("Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.")
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To: Daffynition

Rifled 12 gauges at 0.71 are still OK?


3 posted on 11/16/2008 12:28:29 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Daffynition
From the article: "...including those from the Revolutionary War and Civil War eras. "

Sounds like excellent material for a Supreme Court case.

4 posted on 11/16/2008 12:29:16 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Daffynition

In order for there to be change, there has to be pre-change.


5 posted on 11/16/2008 12:30:04 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Daffynition

I propose they neck down a 20mm cannon case and call it the .499 Schumer.


6 posted on 11/16/2008 12:37:01 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Daffynition

Read later


7 posted on 11/16/2008 12:37:52 PM PST by adc (Rush '08All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
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To: Daffynition
How about a 12 gage pump shotgun with slugs????
8 posted on 11/16/2008 12:39:32 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Daffynition

And exactly how many murders have been committed using these weapons? Wonder why they are concerned?


9 posted on 11/16/2008 12:41:03 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Wonder why they are concerned?

They're concerned because they know what kind of reaction they will get when they start doing to the people what socialist/communists always try to do.

10 posted on 11/16/2008 12:45:17 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Daffynition
Like this Hawken rifle


11 posted on 11/16/2008 12:45:36 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: PeterPrinciple

To answer your question “0.”

“So New Jersey finally will do what Gen. Gage couldn’t, disarm the colonists of their muskets.”


12 posted on 11/16/2008 1:04:24 PM PST by Daffynition ("Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.")
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To: Daffynition

ping, A mini-14 with 30 round clip is in my future.


13 posted on 11/16/2008 1:31:05 PM PST by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was derailed on that last post)
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To: Daffynition

Bump.


14 posted on 11/16/2008 1:36:17 PM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: eyedigress

If you are in NJ, the Mini-14 is an “M14S type” and therefore banned.


15 posted on 11/16/2008 1:38:38 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Daffynition
Well I guess my Knight .50 cal smoke-pole is banned in N.J.

Idiots.....

16 posted on 11/16/2008 1:53:42 PM PST by Osage Orange (Victims that fight back live longer.....................)
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To: Daffynition

Anyone know the baddest weapons still currently legal in NJ? I want to get what I can before its too late.


17 posted on 11/16/2008 1:55:37 PM PST by conservativeevan
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To: Spktyr

My local shop has 6 left and one 30 round clip left. He’s letting it go for 649.00 I’m taking it.


18 posted on 11/16/2008 1:56:47 PM PST by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was derailed on that last post)
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To: eyedigress

Unless it’s a 580-series Mini-14, don’t bother. Get an AR instead.


19 posted on 11/16/2008 1:59:01 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I am weak in this area, could you explain the benefit?


20 posted on 11/16/2008 2:03:17 PM PST by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was derailed on that last post)
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