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Christine Whitman and Robert Bostock: GOP can't afford to remain hostage to social fundamentalists
Capital Times ^ | 11-15-08

Posted on 11/16/2008 11:35:46 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson
Without the social-fundamentalists, the GOP really is nothing but "Democrat-Lite."

Now, let's see a show of hands by those people who still insist it isn't time to replace The GOP.

61 posted on 11/16/2008 1:16:39 PM PST by E. Cartman (Washington, DC: Where the inmates really do run the asylum.)
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To: goldstategop
If the social conservatives are what's destroying the Republican Party, will Christine Whitman and Robert Bostock kindly explain why traditional marriage initiatives all over the country

No silly. :)

62 posted on 11/16/2008 1:25:07 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: SJackson
"“Christine Whitman and Robert Bostock: GOP can’t afford to remain hostage to social fundamentalists”

Excuse me, Ms whitman & Mr. bostock, but it was social fundamentalists who started the Republican party. So if you two don't like it, then you're welcome to leave it. Just make sure you don't let the door hit you in the --- on your way out. K?

63 posted on 11/16/2008 1:29:17 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: csmusaret
It is time to have three major parties: Liberal, Conservative, Mushy Middle

If we have that.. the Liberals would win all the time. We need to bring the REAGAN DEMOCRATS to the GOP, and not let them be brainwashed by the MARXIST DEMOCRATS.

64 posted on 11/16/2008 1:32:57 PM PST by FreeAmerica2009
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To: BillyBoy

To go along with your post I thought you might enjoy this:

http://gloriajane.podOmatic.com/entry/2008-11-15T09_05_19-08_00

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During the civil war northern soldiers, also referred to at the time as Yankee soldiers, used to sing the song as they marched off to battle.
After Julia Ward Howe heard the Union troops singing this, which is the original version of the song, she wrote her own words to it’s tune. Soon after, her version, was published in the “Atlantic Monthly” as “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.”


65 posted on 11/16/2008 1:33:24 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

66 posted on 11/16/2008 1:34:09 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: SJackson

It’s kind of significant that New Jersey is the only state where, when polled, a majority of the people said that they would like to live somewhere else.

One would hope that it would begin to elect some leaders with a little more wisdom and leadership beyond its bounds than we have seen for a long time.


67 posted on 11/16/2008 1:38:31 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: wolf24

“Social fundamentalists.” Ah, you mean people who actually believe in something. Or rather, people who do not believe in selling out their nation or the American people to the radical left. Yeah, those dummies! Look how well McCain did with his appeal to the braindead “moderate majority!” Gee, what are we conservatives, we actual Americans, thinking about!


68 posted on 11/16/2008 1:43:24 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: goldstategop

Therefore, moderates are flip-floppers! :) Luke-warm, ready to be spit out of God’s mouth, especially after voting pro-death to the innocents. Like Whitman!


69 posted on 11/16/2008 1:51:05 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: what's up

“Whitman is great for ultra-liberal states like NJ.”

Republicans should generally ignore the words of any pol from a state that is on salt water or a major river.


70 posted on 11/16/2008 1:59:23 PM PST by dbacks (God help the USA.)
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To: narses

“Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment”

He!!, waking up in the morning and seeing Michele, my gal, is PUNISHMENT!

AWNT ESTHER!


71 posted on 11/16/2008 2:05:58 PM PST by dbacks (God help the USA.)
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To: SJackson

Go ahead and try to win without us.


72 posted on 11/16/2008 2:17:38 PM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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To: narses

-—”Christine Whitman and Robert Bostock: GOP can’t afford to remain hostage to social fundamentalists”-—

I agree - the Social Libertarians are killing us. Unreliable, bad at turning-out, no grassroots machines to offer, tend to defect in important elections and on votes......I don’t want to be held hostage to their demands anymore. They often choose our candidate and STILL defect (see McCain, Dole). Until we’re finally Social Democrats, we’ll never be good enough for them.

I’ve had enough of the Social Libertarian fundamentalists too, Whitman and Bostock. These two are right - we should stop being held hostage to them.

Or were they referring to something else.......? ;-)


73 posted on 11/16/2008 2:19:35 PM PST by TitansAFC (Sarah Palin/Mitt Romney 2012!!! Elway, Schwarzenegger, Ditka, Huckabee, and Hoeven for Senate 2010!)
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To: SJackson
The Republican Party had been taken hostage by "social fundamentalists,"

Because being taken "hostage" by liberal Democrats is so much better.

74 posted on 11/16/2008 2:21:00 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Have you risen above your own public education today?)
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To: B Knotts
Go ahead and try to win without us.

That's true, but not really the issue. Hostage, where was the McCain campaign held hostage to social issues. This election began as a referendum on the war, having won that, on the economy. I'm sure McCain mentioned abortion somewhere, I missed it, gay marriage was opposed by Obama and Biden, because the voters oppose it.

There were no "fundamentalist" issues discussed in this campaign.

75 posted on 11/16/2008 2:44:51 PM PST by SJackson (http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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To: chesley

ditto

in fact, if the RINOS win this battle then I am going to register as a democrat

I will vote for the most conservative democrats I can find or no one at all


76 posted on 11/16/2008 3:07:09 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: SJackson

True. This was not an election about cultural issues. The RINOs are still trying to blame it all on Sarah Palin and social conservatives.

It was really about the rejection of the big government conservatives like Christie Whitman, IMO.


77 posted on 11/16/2008 3:14:44 PM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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To: SJackson

Without the “social fundamentalists,” they’d really have been hurting. That was the only thing that got many people out to vote for the GOP.

Except for the GOP nod to opposition to abortion and opposition to things like gay “marriage,” the parties are virtually indistinguishable. Take away the social conservatism, and you’ve taken away the only reason to vote for the GOP.


78 posted on 11/16/2008 3:21:58 PM PST by livius
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To: SJackson

Let’s see: 57 million Catholic voters looking for a voice, and 80% of the country describing itself as Christian. Not only is Whitman a mindless moderate; she can’t count.


79 posted on 11/16/2008 3:23:23 PM PST by farmer18th (George Will: Conservative, as long as the Newsweek People Don't make Fun of Me.)
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To: beethovenfan

—Republicans never win when they run as “Democrat Lite”.—

You are absolutely right.


80 posted on 11/16/2008 3:28:59 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Election 2010 begins today!)
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