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Melting pot cracks as Muslims reject Christian names in France
Timesonline.co.uk ^ | November 15, 2008 | Charles Bremner and Marie Tourres

Posted on 11/16/2008 9:36:52 AM PST by forkinsocket

They are born in France and called Louis, Laurent or Marie but they want to become Abdel, Said or Rachida. Such requests from immigrants’ children for name changes are mounting in the French courts and worrying a state that lays store on melding a single national culture.

In a sign of a new assertiveness, children with families from Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco are reversing the old custom in which immigrants from the old colonies gave French names to their children.

Driven by a feeling that they do not belong to their Gallic Christian names, the applicants are meeting resistance from judges who are reluctant to endorse what they see as a rejection of France.

Under France’s strict administrative laws, an official change of first name requires court consent. Until 1992 parents could only register their babies with names from an approved list.

“The way I look is out of sync with my name,” said Jacques, 25, who wants to adopt a name from his parents’ native Algeria. He rejected the standard view that a French name overcomes the persisting reluctance of French employers to recruit nonwhite minorities.

“There is a double-take when I send a job application and then turn up for the interview. They hesitate, as if the person they have summoned could not be me,” he said.

There is abundant evidence that, despite antidiscrimination laws, French employers discriminate against job-seekers with foreign names. Nadine, who is in her forties, failed to convince a Paris court to let her go back to Zoubida, the name she had before naturalisation. “I want to return to my roots,” she told Judge Anne-Marie Lemarinier, according to Le Monde newspaper.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: americaalone; demographics; demography; eurabia; europe; france; frenchmuslims; islam; islamization; mohammedanism; muslims; names; stealthjihad
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

We will not win this war until we swiftly and dramatically swerve the oil weapon out of their hands. Our leaders have refused to do this for over twenty years.


21 posted on 11/16/2008 11:31:21 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Owl558

Yes, many Europeans tend to Americanize their names at naturalization — I know a few who have. But I have never heard of a “Mohammed” change it to “Michael” or “Manuel”.


22 posted on 11/16/2008 11:39:09 AM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: forkinsocket

Why do people keep on talking about a melting pot when the proper name is pressure cooker?


23 posted on 11/16/2008 11:40:54 AM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: forkinsocket

“I want to return to my roots,” she told //

I approve of her thinking so much I want her to return to Algeria, or whatever part of the Turd World she came from.

Let’s learn from France.


24 posted on 11/16/2008 3:19:16 PM PST by gaijin
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To: razorback-bert; BCW; tillacum; RepublitarianRoger2
There is abundant evidence that, despite anti discrimination laws, French employers discriminate against job-seekers with foreign names.

BS. The (white) French are very closely watched by the thought police, and the slightest hint of discrimination is severely punished in courts.

The punishments are so harsh and so quick that Muslim agitators are using this mechanism as a get-rich-quick money scheme. For instance, recently, a deli was hiring. One applicant was a Muslim woman. The deli owner told her that she'd have to handle pork meat as part of her duties, and she refused. The Muslim denounced the deli owner as racist, and the deli owner was sentenced to pay very heavy damages to the applicant, not to mention a heavy fine.

Besides, if French are so racist, how come that the Muslim are reverting to Muslim names, which would designate more readily as targets of the evil whites?

25 posted on 11/16/2008 7:43:56 PM PST by FrogBurger (Always compare news articles from different sources. When they fully agree, you can be sure it's BS.)
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To: FrogBurger
Granted, I don't live there, but I am just going by NUMEROUS reports from numerous sources throughout the last several years that contradict your claims. Not saying you're wrong, just saying that this is not what I have been reading, at all.
26 posted on 11/16/2008 8:10:21 PM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
All it proves is that it is extremely easy to drag someone in front of a hostile court in France if you call them racist. You just have to call 08 1000 5000 (a toll-free call) or to send an email, and a "national authority fighting against discrimination" called HALDE will handle everything for you, courtesy of the taxpayer. Considering the insignificant cases that this organization handles, it is obvious that they are overstaffed and are desperately trying to justify their own existence -- a classic problem with a bureaucracy.

If you had a government branch in charge of fighting witchcraft, you'd see plenty of witches burned. Especially if the denunciation is free and without consequences for the people who cry worlf.

27 posted on 11/16/2008 8:31:31 PM PST by FrogBurger (Always compare news articles from different sources. When they fully agree, you can be sure it's BS.)
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To: forkinsocket

The “melting pot” was a myth anyway, propagated by late 19th century idealistic American liberals/socialists.


28 posted on 11/16/2008 8:34:30 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: forkinsocket

Sadly it is going to come down to a bloodbath to root out the evil of islam. We need a political Patton to stop this influx of vermin.


29 posted on 11/16/2008 11:00:48 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Political correctness is a form of censorship!)
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To: 353FMG

“Yes, many Europeans tend to Americanize their names at naturalization...”

I was speaking more of people from Asia as opposed to Europeans, but this may be a matter of perspective - I’m on the west coast.

I have met a number of Afghan immigrants who have changed their names. There is a Mohammad amongst them. He is now Tony. He may be an exception, however.


30 posted on 11/17/2008 9:59:20 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558

>He is now Tony.<

Tony the Terrorist?


31 posted on 11/17/2008 10:03:19 AM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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