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To: Libloather

GWB legacy, lose 2006+2008 and democrats get complete power. This Autoworkers bailout keeps GWB in spotlight. We definitely have a harder time than 1992. The 700B bailout gamble GWB did definitely lost and now he has handed democrats everything they need to to completely socialize america. Coleman voted for bailout, Frankin against


4 posted on 11/15/2008 7:37:53 PM PST by sickoflibs ( Have we had enough loss and humiliation? Then what do we stand for?)
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To: sickoflibs

The bailout was the beginning of the end of this chapter of the Republican Party. And quite possibly the end of the Republic for that matter.

I used to think that history would be kind to GWB when looked at impartially a decade from now.

Now I think that we will see what a fraud he really was. If it weren’t for the War, I doubt I would have voted for him in 2004.


10 posted on 11/15/2008 8:07:48 PM PST by rom (Voted for Ron Paul in the primary. Voted against Obama in the general and FOR Palin.)
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To: sickoflibs
Don't agree - GWB will be remembered as a CinC that saw U.S. lead efforts (destroy AQ) and change the world by helping to establish an atmosphere in the heart of the ME that allowed for a self-deporation away from Radical Islam, thus changing the world. History will be incredibly kind to him for having the stones to stay the course and insist on victory - He will be remembered as a POTUS that never raised taxes (and cut them across the board during his years to boot).

As for where we are now, The Republican Base abandoning GWB like it did (right or wrong on a specific issues) is what led to this. In doing so the base allowed the MSM to completely trash the GOP brand image (via push polls and constant attacks of the "R" President). In the this age of 24/7 news cycles this gave the MSM all it needed which they ran with constantly. This had a large effect on indy's and moderates, pushing them away from the "R" brand altogether. And reality is when it comes to immigration GWB was likely right strategically (for the need for the GOP to be seen as part of a real solution within the Hispanic community) but the WH was wrong tactically about how to go about it (border issues should have been offered up / implemented first). Our base, while right tactically then through away our strategic needs because they did not support the tactical actions of the WH on the issue. Sad.

And lets get off "GWB isn't a real conservative / Republican" - One could say the same thing (make the same associated lists) with regard to R. Reagan to suggest he was not a Republican (SDO on SCOUTs, tax raises of 86, further expansion of failed Soc. Sec and FICA tax increases, Full Amnesty with no requirements whatsoever when the problem was at a much more manageable level to address fully, cutting and running from Beirut, etc, etc). Reality is however, both R. Reagan and GWB were/are d*mn fine men and did without question what they thought was best for this Nation, not from the politically, they were leaders and both made the world & more importantly the United States safer because of their leadership.

21 posted on 11/15/2008 9:40:09 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: sickoflibs

HOw did Frankin vote against anything again ? ????
he was never in office.
Troll ,Buzz back to the DU.


22 posted on 11/15/2008 9:55:31 PM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: sickoflibs

“Coleman voted for bailout, Frankin against”

Uh, Franken can’t vote against anything.


35 posted on 11/16/2008 1:26:24 PM PST by Tublecane
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