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'Dreams' controversy goes global (Obama/Ayers DreamsGate rages on)
WND ^ | 11/6/08 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/09/2008 3:06:19 PM PST by pissant

As late as two weeks ago I had not the foggiest notion that I would spend the last week of the campaign in D.C. or the last weekend in a spitting match with the London Times and Oxford University, two institutions that buy their spit by the barrel.

This all began back in July, entirely innocently. Someone sent me some short excerpts from Barack Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams From My Father" and asked if they were as radical as they sounded.

I located the excerpts within larger passages online and replied that, in fact, they were not particularly radical in context.

But I did notice something else. They were much too well-written. In my careers in advertising and publishing, I have reviewed no fewer than a thousand portfolios of professional writers.

Not one of those aspirants could have written "Dreams," at least not the best parts. I am not sure I could have.

The Times of London, in fact, has called "Dreams" "a beautifully written personal memoir steeped in honesty." And if the "honesty" part is dubious, the "beautifully written" part is not.

The very few people who had addressed the issue of a ghostwriter addressed it in the negative: Unlike a Bush or a McCain, Obama did not need a ghostwriter.

To a large degree Obama's persona had been crafted around this illusion, and he was not about to dispel it.

I was suspicious. A few years ago I had written a book on intellectual fraud, "Hoodwinked," and I learned how easy it was to put one over if the writer advanced a cause that the literary gatekeepers wanted to see advanced. Obama was surely one such cause.

I expressed my concerns in a July 31 WorldNetDaily piece called,

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ayers; bho2008; billayers; dreams; dreamsofmyfather; jackcashill; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamafamily
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We will not rest until all of the marxist Obama's malfeasance and fraud is proven and forced down America's throat.
1 posted on 11/09/2008 3:06:20 PM PST by pissant
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“What troubled me, however, was that to the degree the media – including the “respectable” conservative media – inquired into this project, it was to dismiss my evidence out of hand, not to pursue it.”

That’s because they will start to go into meltdown mode if you do anything that might show The Liar as anything but the Messiah they are convinced he is.


2 posted on 11/09/2008 3:34:41 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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I think of the “scandals” that we know of this is the biggie (if true)...it goes to the heart of the fraud


3 posted on 11/09/2008 3:39:39 PM PST by woofie
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To: pissant

Agreed. I see no reason why any efforts to unearth the true BHussein should be shelved- onward to the truth!


4 posted on 11/09/2008 3:41:47 PM PST by Sisku Hanne (The day begins and ends in Alaska.)
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pissant, I have seen alot of posts of yours and something came to me when lamenting the MSM bias of Obama and I remembered reading about how David Geffen called Obama and said “You are going to run for President and I am going to back you” http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2008/11/geffen-on-obama.html

My question is how much control do you think this media mogul has overall? He’s a billionaire in the entertainment industry, started a record label for Jackson Browne, Joni Mitchell and Linda Ronstadt. He is openly gay and has HUGE issues with Republicans.

He also wrote an article slamming Hillary Clinton which turned the tide on Obama.

I have no idea how to investigate this and don’t even know where to start.

Thanks


5 posted on 11/09/2008 3:42:11 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: woofie

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6 posted on 11/09/2008 3:55:56 PM PST by danamco
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This study of Ayers “doctoring” or helping Obama sounds legit for another reason. If he were such a GREAT writer, why has he written nothing else...legislation, articles when he was the editor of the Harvard Law Review??? Those around Obama have said over and over again that he was a so-so professor; in fact, not ONE person has stood up for him really. Great writers are usually GREAT lecturers because they lecture in story form.

If these memoirs were written so well, there should be other writings by Obama that would show a connection of style. Believe me, I’m an English teacher and ALL writers have a style (that’s why kids can’t understand when I catch them plagarizing...I can tell it’s not their style)

When Reagan’s letters were found, people could see that his thoughts, his style of writing were very similar to his own words on the stump. I think this is why Obama’s records and other works have been withheld....they would be able to tell that his books have been heavily edited by someone else (Ayers) and the connection would be uncovered.

Also...it seems appropriate that we have both BIDEN and OBAMA the plagarizers-in-chief.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 4:03:34 PM PST by t2buckeye
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Jack Cashill is a very bright man. I hope he sees this through. However, in the short run (50 years), I doubt it will make any more impression than the absolute proof that, “I, Rigoberta Menchu” is pure fiction. And in the long run, we are all dead.

When the Minbari turn up, though, they’ll get a kick out of it.


8 posted on 11/09/2008 4:41:44 PM PST by Tax-chick (Teenage mutant tortilla chips - only at Wal-mart!)
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To: danamco

OMG, What the heck? Is that for real? Barry Soetero has herpes and aids? I can’t believe, if true, it hasn’t been scrubbed off the internet.


9 posted on 11/09/2008 5:05:19 PM PST by CaliGirl-R
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To: danamco

so how real IS that? did somdeone put that in as a joke?


10 posted on 11/09/2008 5:06:21 PM PST by woofie
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To: pissant

The was probably one big reason why we will not see Obama’s senior thesis, or any other example of his college writing. The comparison would be too glaring.


11 posted on 11/09/2008 5:09:58 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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Id like to see Obama sit down right now and knock out a new updated chapter


12 posted on 11/09/2008 5:24:01 PM PST by woofie
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To: danamco

yikes!


13 posted on 11/09/2008 5:26:00 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: danamco

Well, I’ll be dipped in s***! It shows Obama!


14 posted on 11/09/2008 5:27:59 PM PST by pankot
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To: t2buckeye
When Reagan’s letters were found, people could see that his thoughts, his style of writing were very similar to his own words on the stump. I think this is why Obama’s records and other works have been withheld....they would be able to tell that his books have been heavily edited by someone else (Ayers) and the connection would be uncovered.

People would love to firm up Ayers in Obama knowing each other way back when 0bama went to Columbia and Ayers was attending Bank St School of Education. Both are in Manhattan

Ayers is a self proclaimed opportunistic bisexual. Ever see his two cute hoop earrings...he wears them now
Frank Marshall Davis was bisexual sometimes
What mentors

15 posted on 11/09/2008 5:31:49 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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Anybody Got Ayers’ Address At Columbia?

October 22, 2008 at 11:04 am (Barack Obama, Politics) (, , , , , , )

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altThe details of Barack Obama’s Columbia/New York years (1981 - 1985) are pretty sketchy.  We know, that for some reason, Obama decided to leave California’s Occidental College in favor of New York’s Columbia in 1981.  We know from this article, that Obama lived at 339 E. 94th St. for most, if not all of that time.

While no residents, current or past, who were contacted by The Times remembered Mr. Obama, they shared tales of a building with low rents and dicey circumstances during the early 1980s, when Mr. Obama apparently lived there, before and after he graduated from Columbia University in 1983. (“B. Obama” was listed in telephone directories at 339 East 94th Street in the early 1980s. Mr. Obama did not specify the building number in his memoir, and his campaign has said that he has forgotten specifics of his youth.)

The apartment building is described as being located on East 94th Street, between First and Second Avenue.  The National Review says that while Obama was studying at Columbia, William Ayers came out of hiding and started going to school in the neighborhood.

Said had a wide circle of radical acquaintances. That circle clearly included Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. When they came out of hiding in the early 1980s (while Obama was attending Columbia), Ayers took education courses at Bank Street College, adjacent to Columbia in Morningside Heights — before earning his doctorate at Columbia’s Teachers College in 1987.

This is Bill Ayers’ website.  The link to his bio says “not found.”  Wikipedia says this about Ayers’ Columbia days:

After leaving the underground, he earned an M.Ed from Bank Street College in Early Childhood Education (1984), an M.Ed from Teachers College, Columbia University in Early Childhood Education (1987) and an Ed.D from Teachers College, Columbia University in Curriculum and Instruction (1987).

Wikipedia, on Columbia:

Columbia University is a private university in the United States and a member of the Ivy League. Columbia’s main campus lies in the Morningside Heights neighborhood in the borough of Manhattan, in New York City.

About Bank Street college, Wikipedia says:

Bank Street College of Education, or simply Bank Street is located in Morningside Heights, Manhattan, in New York City.

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The college gets its name from its former location on Bank Street in Greenwich Village. It moved to its current location in the early 1970s.

What’s interesting about the Greenwich Village location is that Ayers and the Weathermen also had a ’70’s connection to the Village.  From The New York Observer:

On March 6, 1970, five members of the radical Weather Underground accidentally detonated dynamite at a makeshift bomb factory in the basement of 18 West 11th Street. The bombs were, according to rumors, destined for a military compound in New Jersey and for Butler Library at Columbia University.

Commentary Magazine says Ayers lived in the Greenwich Village apartment:

Ayers now teaches at the University of Illinois in Chicago. That’s an outrage in and of itself, but at least he does not teach bombmaking, the craft that what made him infamous. Ayers was a Weatherman, and was resident in a Greenwich Village townhouse where his lovely group was working on a bomb intended to kill army personnel at Fort Dix in 1970. Fortunately, the device destroyed the Greenwich Village townhouse where it was being assembled and killed three of the bomb assemblers instead of innocents.

The question that remains, however, is where exactly did Ayers live while he was at Bank Street College and Teachers College of Columbia, presumably during the same years Barack Obama lived and studied there?  Understandably, Ayers Columbia years are shrouded in mystery, but curiously, Obama’s Columbia years are also murky, at best.  Another New York Observer article:

NOT MANY PEOPLE AT Columbia between 1981 and 1983 seem to remember Senator Obama when he was a student.

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In fact, there is not a single picture of Senator Obama in any of the yearbooks from the period when he was a student–he is not even listed as absent in the BSO photo from 1983.

No one from the library in the School of International Public Affairs, the building he would have had most of his classes in as a political science major, remembered him. The chairman of the Political Science Department when Senator Obama was an undergraduate, Mark Chalmers, wrote in an e-mail that he did not remember him, and the two alumni I managed to reach from the class of ‘83 refused to answer any questions about their old classmate.

So, if Obama lived at 339 E. 94th during the same time Ayers was studying close by, where did Ayers live?  When he says, “he’s just a guy in my neighborhood,” which neighborhood is he talking about?  That little piece of information might answer quite a few pertinent questions once and for all.

16 posted on 11/09/2008 5:37:43 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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Our strategy should be not only to confront empire, but to lay siege to it. To deprive it of oxygen. To shame it. To mock it. With our art, our music, our literature, our stubbornness, our joy, our brilliance, our sheer relentlessness - and our ability to tell our own stories. Stories that are different from the ones we’re being brainwashed to believe. The corporate revolution will collapse if we refuse to buy what they are selling - their ideas, their version of history, their wars, their weapons, their notion of inevitability.

From his websit


17 posted on 01/08/2009 9:45:56 PM PST by mojitojoe
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The guy is anti 0bammy and mocks him. That’s good enough for me


18 posted on 01/09/2009 12:49:26 AM PST by dennisw (On the 31st floor a gold plated door won't keep out the Lord's burning rage ---FBB)
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#156 has been removed.


19 posted on 01/09/2009 1:14:39 AM PST by jellybean (Who is John Galt? ~ Bookmark altfreerepublic.freeforums.org for when FR is down)
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According to a 11/27/80 NYT story, "Bernardine Dohrn Reportedly Seen on West Side," (NYT Archives), Ayers and Dohrn moved to NYC sometime in 1978, renting an apartment at 520 W 123rd in December, 1979, using the names Christine Louise Douglas and Anthony J. Lee. Their 2nd child, Malik Cochise Dohrn was born there on Feb. 1, 1980. They gave their previous address as a studio apartment at 457 W 46th, and told acquaintances they had moved to NYC from San Francisco.

During those years, Dohrn worked as a part-time waitress at a restaurant/bar named "Teachers," and from September 1979 until shortly before the birth of Malik on 2/1/80, at a baby boutique, Broadway Baby, 2244 Broadway, near 82nd St.

Ayers first worked as a baker at The Bread Shop, a health food bakery at Broadway and LaSalle Street, before going to work as a teacher at BJs Kids, a day care center in PS 9, 100 W. 84th Street, which his kids attended.

After pre-paying three months rent on their apartment, on or around Nov. 13, 1980, Ayers and Dohrn packed up the kids and "drove off in a blue station wagon," telling their employers they had to return to Chicago because of an illness in the family.

On December 3, 1980, Ayers and Dohrn surrendered to IL state authorities in Chicago on a plea bargain presumed to have been negotiated in advance. Due to prosecutorial misconduct, charges against Ayers were dismissed, while Dohrn received probation and a fine for crimes committed during the "Days of Rage" in Chicago in '69.

Sometime after Dec. 3, 1980,  they returned to NYC. Although they presumably intended (three months advance rent before they left) taking up residence again in the apartment on W 123rd, it's questionable that they returned there after the publicity engendered by the 11/80 NYT story printed in their absence. Ayers was listed at 243 W 15th St in the 1981 Manhattan telephone directory (that info taken from an online post, and not verified).

Ayers began studying for his Master's in Early Childhood Ed. at Banks Street College of Ed. in 1982, and graduated in 1984. He earned both his M. Ed. and Ed.D from the Teachers College of Columbia U. in 1987.

Dohrn refused to cooperate with the grand jury investigating the 1981 Brinks Robbery, and was jailed for contempt in a NYC federal prison in May 1982. She was released in December, 1982, at which time she married Ayers -- probably for the purpose of adopting Chesa Boudin, son of Cathy Boudin and David Gilbert, both of whom were convicted and jailed for the robbery, which took the lives of two policemen and a Brinks guard.("Behind the Brinks Case: Return of the Radical Left," NYT, 2/16/82; "Bernardine Dohrn Freed by Judge," NYT, Jan. 6, 1983 -- NYT Archives).

Dohrn went to work at the NY office of Sidley & Austin in 1984. She passed the NY Bar exam the same year, but was refused admission to the Bar due to her jail sentence and "contempt" expressed in refusing to comply with the Federal Grand Jury's request.

Ayers, Dohrn and their three sons returned to Chicago in 1987.

Keep in mind that telephone directory listings, especially for NYC apartments, are notoriously inaccurate. The NYT is also ignoring the following from a 5/15/08 AP story about  Obama's Pakistani roommate Sohale Siddiqi (interviewed once only):

"The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama's time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won't, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan's Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn - one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan's Upper East Side."

Also, in "Dreams," Obama describes his first sublet apartment, which he couldn't get into upon arrival in August '81 (and so slept in the alley with a chicken) as located near 109th and Amsterdam on the Upper West Side. As usual, it's unclear how long he stayed there before moving in with Saddiqi on the Upper East Side, or how long he stayed at E. 94th, although he's listed at that address in the '82 and '83 NYC directories.

Barack Obama: everywhere and nowhere in NYC.

20 posted on 01/09/2009 7:50:20 AM PST by browardchad
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