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Thanks for the reply.

I'll accept that ID is a science when it operates using the scientific method.

But to date, the single largest and most active proponent of ID, the Discovery Institute, is clearly pushing religion thinly disguised as science.

Significant portions of their funding for these efforts are from religious sources, and are undertaken by people with clearly religious goals. The methods used are those of propaganda and PR, rather than science. They employ lawyers and PR flacks, rather than research scientists.

Here is the Wiki article.

And here is the Wedge Strategy which exposes their true goals. These are their Governing Goals:

To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural and political legacies.
To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.

Not exactly science, eh?

I'll accept that ID is a science when it operates using the scientific method.

You'll accept it? LOL I'll accept nothing less than neutrality at the level of the hypothesis.

hypo = underpinnings or foundation

thesis = beliefs

But to date, the single largest and most active proponent of ID, the Discovery Institute, is clearly pushing religion thinly disguised as science.

Significant portions of their funding for these efforts are from religious sources, and are undertaken by people with clearly religious goals. The methods used are those of propaganda and PR, rather than science. They employ lawyers and PR flacks, rather than research scientists.

Yes, you are correct. It is to be expected when ideas are pushed out to the fringe based on philosophical differences from the "common thinking".

And here is the Wedge Strategy which exposes their true goals. These are their Governing Goals:

To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural and political legacies. To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.

That may be their POV, but it isn't mine.

Not exactly science, eh?

Nope, but from my POV it is equal to those who try to use science to prove atheism. Guys like Dawkins are hacks.

But to date, the single largest and most active proponent of ID, the Discovery Institute, is clearly pushing religion thinly disguised as science.

The problenm with that is when you go here and actually READ what the scientists have to say, you can't see a shred of religious injection: www.dissentfromdarwin.org

And, I've yet to see recent genuine critical peer review of evolution by the anit-God crowd either.

I'm also still waiting for your explanations as to how one would tell an ID scientist from a godless evo-cultist if their peer review didn't have their names attached to their works.

Mind you I'm not about to hold my breath becase it's not that you won't but it's because you can't answer to these observations!

I highly recommend the movie “Expelled” for you.