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Obama's retirement plan proposals - Retirees and workers with 401(k) savings may see changes
South Bend Tribune ^ | 11/09/08 | DAVID PITT

Posted on 11/09/2008 5:53:17 AM PST by Libloather

Obama's retirement plan proposals
Retirees and workers with 401(k) savings may see changes.
By DAVID PITT
Associated Press Writer
November 09. 2008 6:59AM

The election is over and the message is clear — the economy is priority one. The big question now is how some of President-elect Barack Obama's campaign proposals will affect retirees and workers with 401(k) and other retirement accounts. Looking at them a bit closer may reveal some clues.

What are some of the ideas Obama has proposed that could impact my retirement planning?

One issue Obama has endorsed may get serious consideration before he takes the oath of office in January.

Obama proposed a temporary suspension of the required minimum distribution rule, which forces tens of millions of retirees to take money out of their IRA and 401(k) accounts once they turn 70 1/2. The rule is designed to give the government its share of the taxes on the money, which has been accumulating tax free. Failure to take out the money results in a 50 percent penalty assessed by the IRS.

Suspending the mandatory withdrawal would allow people to keep the money in the account and possibly recover some of their losses when the market recovers.

Obama's plan would temporarily waive the penalties and taxes on withdrawals made after age 70 1/2. There's interest in Congress to get it done — sooner rather than later.

The chairman of the House Committee on Education and Labor, Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., has asked Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to suspend the tax penalty immediately.

AARP, the Washington-based group that represents 39 million people aged 50 and older, also has urged Paulson to take the action right away.

(Excerpt) Read more at southbendtribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 401k; bho2008; ira; moneygrab; obama; retirement; rothira; savings
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RATS will start to tinker with the system. Gird your loins.
1 posted on 11/09/2008 5:53:18 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Retirees and workers with 401(k) savings may will see changes

there fixed

2 posted on 11/09/2008 5:55:41 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Libloather

I would not be surprised that in the near future retirees will become Soylent Green like Edward G Robinson.

Anyone too young to have ever seen the movie should rent it.


3 posted on 11/09/2008 5:57:14 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: cgk

ping


4 posted on 11/09/2008 5:59:22 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Libloather

Note to persons with 401k’s:

If ther is away to be penalized now by dipping, strongly consider it.

Note to self: Must see if I can withdraw any of my non 401 type money to put in safer location, like my matress.

This is scary


5 posted on 11/09/2008 6:00:55 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: Libloather

The case of “forced” distribution of 401K funds at 70...came up with a friend of mine this past month. He really didn’t want to touch the money but the Vanguard folks are going to force the issue because of the law. His account was worth $200k two years ago. Its barely $120k currently because of the stock market losses. He’d rather wait two years before taking any funds out but the law isn’t written in a way to provide for that. Personally, this is the one idea that some folks might support. Makes me wonder why the Republicans didn’t bring this up two months ago? But again, a day late and a dollar short on real thinking has been the Republican slogan for the past year.


6 posted on 11/09/2008 6:01:23 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Libloather

Eliminating 401K’s will crush, I mean CRUSH, the market. We’ll be partying like it’s 1929. I’m hoping Volker is able to head this one off at the pass.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 6:01:54 AM PST by sono ("It's Official -The Democrat Party is now the Socialist Party.." Mark Levin)
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To: Eye of Unk
I guess I should rent it then.

Did Obama have any plan for 401k or retirement funds before the election?

RightWingIt.com

8 posted on 11/09/2008 6:01:56 AM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.RightWingIt.com)
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To: ChetNavVet

Mattress = bad
Gun safe = good


9 posted on 11/09/2008 6:03:50 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Eye of Unk

But ole’ E.G. did have a nice send off. The movie is an interesting treatment of the global warming theme.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 6:03:58 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: pepsionice

The first thing I have agreed with... I don’t think they should force the withdrawals but why do I have a feeling that people could keep the money in only to later be socked with some other new penalty they will create.


11 posted on 11/09/2008 6:04:49 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Libloather
This is a ruse; they want people to leave their money in their 401Ks, so there will be more there when the government seizes all 401Ks.

Dems Target Private Retirement Accounts
Democratic leaders in the U.S. House discuss confiscating 401(k)s, IRAs

http://www.carolinajournal.com/articles/display_story.html?id=5081

12 posted on 11/09/2008 6:05:58 AM PST by MrsPatriot (W...Still the President!)
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To: Libloather

Yep....the knuckle sandwich. bait and switch. The oldest Con in the books, and (given the election results) it will work. A penny today, tomorrow we take your bag of gold.


13 posted on 11/09/2008 6:07:09 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: Republican Extremist

ping


14 posted on 11/09/2008 6:07:36 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Because I’m a gun owning Christian Conservative I’m halfway expecting to be sent to a reeducation camp within the next few years. I will be truly amazed if we will have another presidential election in 2012. History is repeating Germany’s 1930’s here in America with that Commie as Hitler.

Of course I won’t give up without a fight (from my cold dead hands) but two bullets will be saved for my beloved dog and cat because I would rather kill them myself than to have God only knows what done to them after I’m arrested.


15 posted on 11/09/2008 6:07:40 AM PST by proudofthesouth (What Obama's and Michell's REAL names are: Obama = O'Fuerher / Michell = MiMao)
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To: Libloather
-Matching 50 percent of the first $1,000 of savings for families that earn less than $75,000 a year. The savings match will be automatically deposited into designated personal accounts.

The gov't has no business matching savings. Designated personal accounts will no doubt be invested in gov't obligations to fund liberal causes. Gov't obligations will end up being worth next to nothing. This is completely ludicrous.

16 posted on 11/09/2008 6:07:40 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: pepsionice
this could be to his advantage. it's only worth 120K. Pull it, pay the taxes on 120, then re-invest it with a broker in the same finds he is using now or whatever he likes. some can be hidden in roths. if he plans on willing it to some others, dump it into roth's in their names further denying the gov taxes on it.

of course being forced to do something is the point, but you could take advantage of the situation since he cant change it.

17 posted on 11/09/2008 6:08:48 AM PST by FunkyZero
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To: Libloather

I wonder if this includes 403(b)’s as well.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 6:08:49 AM PST by bertmerc1
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To: GaryLee1990

In the movie Charleston Heston is a cop in the future, his best friend is retiring and accepts a peaceful assisted suicide with full surround sound and orchestrated music graciously supplied to the public so that instead of sitting in retirement homes drawing a pension the elderly can die with honor, however the world has a severe food shortage and so to shorten the story here CH follows his friends body to a processing plant that grinds the bodies up into something like a PowerBar,

See the movie.


19 posted on 11/09/2008 6:09:13 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: pepsionice

McCain was the first to raise this issue, and suggested eliminating required withdrawals for retirees back in August.


20 posted on 11/09/2008 6:09:35 AM PST by LouD
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