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Experts confounded: Turnout higher in Ohio in 2004
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | Nov. 7, 2007 | Mark Niquette

Posted on 11/07/2008 10:03:13 AM PST by gotribe

Despite a record number of registered voters this year, intense interest in the presidential election and the historic outcome, Ohio's voter turnout was lower Tuesday than in 2004, unofficial statistics show.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner is reporting 67 percent turnout, compared with 72 percent in 2004. She had been predicting 80 percent turnout this time.

The percentage could increase as provisional ballots, overseas ballots and other outstanding votes are included during the official canvass in the coming weeks.

But overall turnout still is expected to be lower than in 2004, leaving experts at a loss to explain it -- especially because the number of registered voters increased by 319,000 from four years ago.

"That's rather puzzling, given the activity level," said Paul Beck, a political-science professor at Ohio State University.

(Excerpt) Read more at dispatchpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: acornvotefraud; bho2008; mccain; no2008election; oh2008; prsidentbyfraud; votefraud; voterturnout
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McCain didn't get the base out and Obama didn't turn 'em all out either.
1 posted on 11/07/2008 10:03:14 AM PST by gotribe
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To: gotribe

Maybe because Acorn the SoS got a little more exposure than they were counting on this election. Damn, what’s the world coming to when you can’t even count on the dead to show up at an election!


2 posted on 11/07/2008 10:04:34 AM PST by austinaero
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To: gotribe

Or someone dumped a lot of republican votes....


3 posted on 11/07/2008 10:05:18 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tagline scrubbed to prevent invitation to indoctrinization camp)
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To: gotribe

Bull. The numbers reported by Ohio bear no relation in fact to the actual votes cast. Can you say Fraud?


4 posted on 11/07/2008 10:05:26 AM PST by pgkdan ("White folks greed runs a world in need," Jeremiah Wright as quoted by Barack Obama)
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To: gotribe

McCain supressed the vote.


5 posted on 11/07/2008 10:05:28 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Start the AIP- American Independence Party)
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To: austinaero; LS; kesg; Chet 99

A-C-O-R-N was his nam-oooo!!!


6 posted on 11/07/2008 10:06:13 AM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013)
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To: LS

Ping


7 posted on 11/07/2008 10:06:17 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: gotribe

Duh, this isn’t hard to figure out. They are talking percentages.

It is becuase they had a zillion new (fraudulent) voter registrations.

60% of a zillion is more than 67% of 5 million.


8 posted on 11/07/2008 10:06:18 AM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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To: gotribe

A half-elf priest must have slain most of the Obama Zombie voters.


9 posted on 11/07/2008 10:06:29 AM PST by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Or someone dumped a lot of republican votes....”

“McCain supressed the vote.”

Yes and Yes.


10 posted on 11/07/2008 10:07:33 AM PST by ChicagahAl (So your bumper sticker says: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote!"? Duh!)
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To: pgkdan

Source?


11 posted on 11/07/2008 10:08:17 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: gotribe

Hmmmm, did someone say “acorn”?


12 posted on 11/07/2008 10:08:25 AM PST by biss5577
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To: ChicagahAl

I’ve been saying all along...the problem with absentee voting is “chucking” registered republican ballots.


13 posted on 11/07/2008 10:09:15 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

That’s my guess...


14 posted on 11/07/2008 10:09:24 AM PST by pgkdan ("White folks greed runs a world in need," Jeremiah Wright as quoted by Barack Obama)
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To: gotribe

I think we need to come to terms with the reality, which isn’t a bad thing for Conservatism in general. McCain is no conservative as we all know. Most of the votes he got were from a base that loved his VP but had to hold their noses to vote for him. There were enough conservatives that held to their principles and stayed away. McCain got 7-8 million votes less than Bush got in 2004. Had those folks turned out for him he might have actually won.

It’s awful that we have President Obambi. But it’s clear we need a Reagan, and nothing less that a Reagan, combined with a slate of Congress people to rival 1994, that will make us unstoppable. Can we get that done???


15 posted on 11/07/2008 10:09:31 AM PST by antonico
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To: gotribe

“I’m perplexed,” said Herb Asher, professor emeritus of political science at Ohio State University.”

The nitwits that ACORN sign up are too lazy or just don’t care enough to actually go vote.


16 posted on 11/07/2008 10:09:33 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: gotribe
That's easy.

About 10% of the populace didn't bother to show up and vote because they didn't like either candidate. ACORN's phantom voters probably made up for 6%, but there was no one to cover the last 4%.

Don't worry Ohio, with 4 years of The One and ACORN on the job, your voter totals will skyrocket to here before unseen levels!

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

17 posted on 11/07/2008 10:09:47 AM PST by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: gotribe

Maybe they lost a bunch of votes.


18 posted on 11/07/2008 10:09:59 AM PST by petitfour
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To: joesbucks

What the hell do you mean source?? Use your damned head.


19 posted on 11/07/2008 10:10:07 AM PST by pgkdan ("White folks greed runs a world in need," Jeremiah Wright as quoted by Barack Obama)
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To: gotribe

Not enough dead people?.............


20 posted on 11/07/2008 10:10:42 AM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: gotribe

From the article:

“Another interesting result is that the counties with the largest increase in turnout from four years ago — Butler, Delaware and Warren — are solid Republican or GOP-leaning counties.”


21 posted on 11/07/2008 10:10:49 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

A perplexed political science professor - what are the odds?


22 posted on 11/07/2008 10:12:03 AM PST by hometoroost (The Obama Administration will be Mussolini with late trains)
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To: Perdogg

Where were all those young people who were gonna show up?................


23 posted on 11/07/2008 10:13:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: pgkdan

You seem to have the answer. Help a fellow freeper.


24 posted on 11/07/2008 10:13:27 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: gotribe

I certainly want a concrete answer to this. I would not be surprised if some Republican ballots got “lost” and are found too late or not at all.

Don’t get me wrong. McDole was not the best guy to run and that has something to do with it but dang, let’s get the “books balanced” on the votes.


25 posted on 11/07/2008 10:14:08 AM PST by copaliscrossing (If stupidity were barrels of oil, we should start drilling the liberals heads right now!!!)
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To: gotribe

Maybe because President Bush and the Iraq War were more popular than the media ever gave credit for.


26 posted on 11/07/2008 10:15:04 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
McCain supressed the vote.

I'd have to agree with that statement. Many conservatives were willing to take a chance on four years of Obama to get a conservative president. Don't agree with it...but it did happen.

27 posted on 11/07/2008 10:15:14 AM PST by housewife101
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To: Owl_Eagle
Don't worry Ohio, with 4 years of The One and ACORN on the job, your voter totals will skyrocket to here before unseen levels

Of course no republicans (the dumb faction in the corrupt"Two-Party Cartel")will oppose this fraud.

28 posted on 11/07/2008 10:15:29 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: gotribe

No Christian right. The politically active ones voted McCain but they didn’t bring their friends.


29 posted on 11/07/2008 10:15:43 AM PST by azcap
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To: Red Badger

My father died in 2007, I wondered if he voted in North Carolina on Tuesday.


30 posted on 11/07/2008 10:15:58 AM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013)
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To: Sacajaweau

“I’ve been saying all along...the problem with absentee voting is ‘chucking’ registered republican ballots.”

It’s not exactly a secret ballot, is it?

I voted absentee for the first time in 30 years because I needed to be out of town unexpectedly, and I of course had to put my name and address on the envelope.

I know people who reside out of state part of the year and are registered Republicans who have requested but not received their absentee ballots in time to return them and be counted—or not received them at all, or not received them without repeated calls to the town clerk.

Why does the GOP insist on absentee voting? Get yourself to the polls people. Of course, that isn’t failsafe, but I despise the prevalence of early and absentee voting.


31 posted on 11/07/2008 10:17:28 AM PST by thesetruths
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To: gotribe

My county in Ohio had a 75.5% turnout.


32 posted on 11/07/2008 10:17:46 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: gotribe

We had record turnout in Missouri, which may be the only “battleground” state that goes for McCain.

Conservatives were motivated to vote against Obama here. Only 3-5 counties went for Obama in the state, as far as I can tell.


33 posted on 11/07/2008 10:20:11 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: gotribe
Experts confounded: Turnout higher in Ohio in 2004

I think we need a better class of "experts".

34 posted on 11/07/2008 10:20:11 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: gotribe

Of course fake registered voters generally tend not to show up and vote. The ACORN scumbags walking around getting paid to manufacture registrations create the illusion of more registered voters on paper, but it doesn’t translate into real voters.

Just my theory. I’m sure I’m at least partly right.


35 posted on 11/07/2008 10:20:35 AM PST by KoRn
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

hmmmm


36 posted on 11/07/2008 10:23:11 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: gotribe

I think McCain did not have the GOTV ability and Obama won and did not need to use the fake votes.


37 posted on 11/07/2008 10:24:02 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: FreeAtlanta
McCain supressed the vote.

LOL!

38 posted on 11/07/2008 10:25:09 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: gotribe
The only explanation I can think of the McCain voters stayed home. I don't think the Obama people missed their chance
39 posted on 11/07/2008 10:25:22 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: gotribe

We did not get beat by an extraordinary registration or voter turnout effort on the democratic side. We got beat because we lost a significant number of voters who were with us in 2004. Ultimately, I don’t think organization, the fundraising disadvantage, or even the biased media cost us this election. What cost the election is the failure to present a compelling case on the important issues of the day.


40 posted on 11/07/2008 10:26:48 AM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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To: gotribe

We did not get beat by an extraordinary registration or voter turnout effort on the democratic side. We got beat because we lost a significant number of voters who were with us in 2004. Ultimately, I don’t think organization, the fundraising disadvantage, or even the biased media cost us this election. What cost the election is the failure to present a compelling case on the important issues of the day.


41 posted on 11/07/2008 10:26:48 AM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Or someone dumped a lot of republican votes....”

BINGO!!!

Plus the illegal ACORN votes haven’t been counted yet, because they saved them to the last just in case they needed them.


42 posted on 11/07/2008 10:27:09 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: gotribe
Bill Ayers & Obama comin,
We're finally on our own.
This November I hear the drummin,
Less that 2004 in O-Hi-Oh!

Gotta get down to it,
Obama is running us down.
shoulda been gone long ago,
What if you knew him, would you have voted him down
what do we do now we know?

43 posted on 11/07/2008 10:27:19 AM PST by KriegerGeist (Hey Hussein! REDISTRIBUTE THIS!)
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To: gotribe

That is it.....McCain did not bring the base out - Which equals a big upside for the GOP going into 2010 and 2012 in OH and FL.....


44 posted on 11/07/2008 10:27:59 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: antonico

The reality is Obama ran as a tax cutter.

the reality is McCAin was clueless about WHY he lost in 2000 and why he had NO PRAYER until he had a conservative VP.

Now we need to keep exposing Obama(taxes) and exposing Obama(taxes) associates(marxists).


45 posted on 11/07/2008 10:28:52 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

LOL. They voted on Wednesday.


46 posted on 11/07/2008 10:30:47 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Owl_Eagle
Don't worry Ohio, with 4 years of The One and ACORN on the job, your voter totals will skyrocket to here before unseen levels!

I guess the question is will disgust with Obama's total failure of a presidency motivating people to vote against him four years from now outweigh his ability to conduct voter fraud as president of the United States.

47 posted on 11/07/2008 10:33:19 AM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: Perdogg

I left North Carolina in 1977. I wonder if I voted in NC on Tuesday!.....


48 posted on 11/07/2008 10:33:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: joesbucks

Sorry I’m a little touchy. This election has me completely bummed. My only point is that Brunner and ACORN were blatantly trying to steal the election in Ohio and I don’t trust anything that comes from her this election.


49 posted on 11/07/2008 10:34:24 AM PST by pgkdan ("White folks greed runs a world in need," Jeremiah Wright as quoted by Barack Obama)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Another interesting result is that the counties with the largest increase in turnout from four years ago — Butler, Delaware and Warren — are solid Republican or GOP-leaning counties.

This comports with what Freeper LS reported from his precincts. If what he reported holds for the counties mentioned in the article, a lot of those "red" county republicans actually voted for "the One." Strangest election ever. Did self-hating conservatives vote for Obama to atone for some obscure sins? Also, it seems, the base simply didn't turn out. Palin drew in many, but not enough win.

50 posted on 11/07/2008 10:34:39 AM PST by ishmac (Houston near UST)
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