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To: wetickel
As Christians, we are always strangers in a strange land, but I see nothing wrong with working toward making our laws reflective of a righteous society. Beneath the lofty, flowery rhetoric, what Thomas is advocating here is cultural surrender

I usually really like Cal Thomas. However I see this as a "cultural surrender" too. I do agree with him that we cannot expect the government to " legislate" morality, however to bow to their godless rules is absolutely throwing in the sponge.

13 posted on 11/06/2008 7:32:14 AM PST by pollywog (I will lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help. My help comes from the Lord...Ps 121)
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To: pollywog

Also, Cal is forgetting the “human” laws that are being instituted by the liberal judges placed in courts by the Democrats to override God’s laws of the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

These judges think they are above God’s laws and have convinced the majority of people that we have to obey man’s laws not God’s.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 7:42:24 AM PST by carikadon
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To: pollywog
Agreed, this sounds exactly like surrender. What would Christianity be if they had practiced this during the early days of the church? Would it even exist?

Christians are called to live based on their beliefs. Part of living is to take part in the political process. Politics is the means that Christians have to influence the world. Jesus himself never hesitated to take offense at those who were working against the church. The moneylenders in the temple, pharisees, and others. Christians are called to pray for their enemies but to also act as caretakers for their fellow man and be good stewards of the earth. How can Christians fulfill their purpose if they are turning their backs to the world?

America would still be a colony of England if the founders (primarily religious) had done what is being advocated here. Slavery would still exist in America if not for Christians opposing it. 30 years is the blink of an eye when looked at from the history of Christianity. It's certainly not enough time to judge if Christians should remove themselves from politics.

29 posted on 11/06/2008 8:01:21 AM PST by Alcibiades ("First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire"--Roland Deschain)
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