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BOOK: Backing Hitler by Robert Gellately (are you ready for the Civilian National Security Force?)
amazon dot com ^ | 11-2-08 | Gellately; plus DFU comments

Posted on 11/02/2008 12:09:32 PM PST by doug from upland

NOTE: I hope I do not read anyone on FR calling Barack Obama a Nazi. That is a word unique onto itself and its horror is diminished by placing that label on your political adversaries.

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Are you ready for Barack Obama's CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE

There is no doubt that Barack Obama is an extreme socialist. Many of the things he believes, the things he has done, and the people with whom he surrounds himself create some very frightening signals that really do have the potential to threaten our liberty.

In this election cycle, as in no other election cycle, there is massive voter fraud. It is not even being hidden. It is out in the open for all to see and is like nothing we have ever seen in this country. There has been little will to do anything about it, by those who could do something about it, before it was too late.

During his political ascent and to this day, Obama has surrounded himself with the most radical leftists, who hate America and want it fundamentally changed. If they get their way, we will no longer recognize America.

Obama has solicited and accepted huge amounts of illegal money, including a massive amount from overseas. If he wins, no problem. He will simply pay a fine as the price of doing business. Leftists have no rules when it comes to the acquisition of power.

The intimidation of those who disagree is unprecedented. The Obama thugs have had their government prosecutor enforcers in Missouri threaten criminal action against those who do not tell the "truth" about Obama. The Obama thugs have warned journalists about what they can report and several have been thrown off the plane (fortunately, not while in the air...at least not yet).

The fourth estate, on whom we rely to warn us and inform us, are guilty of the worst journalist malpractice in our lifetimes. They have been the unofficial propaganda arm or the Democratic Party. They have done it shamelessly and in the open. The Los Angeles Times has refused to make public a video tape that shows Obama praising someone who wants Israel wiped off the map. The thrills have crawled up the mainstream media's leg, and they are enjoying the arousal that Obama has provided.

We have never thought that a despot could take over America because we have a Constitution. Our elected leaders swear an oath to that Constitution. Obama is like no one before him. He has openly spoken about his disdain for our Constitution as a fundamentally flawed document. The Warren Court was not radical enough. He plans to install judges who will do his bidding without regard to the Constitution. There are already rumors of plans to add two more justices to the Supreme Court, a plan that failed for Franklin Roosevelt. Obama may be able to do it.

All dissent is going to be eliminated. The leftists have control of our children in school, of our young adults in college, of all the major newspapers, of the TV networks (except FOX, which really is fair and balanced), and of what people are fed at the movies. Talk radio and the internet, the last bastions of open and free expression, are going to be crushed. It takes 3 of the 5 FCC commissioners to vote in the "fairness doctrine." They can do it without Congress being involved. If Obama does not have the three votes, the thugs from ACORN will visit the homes of those standing in their way. Count on it.

Joe the Plumber will not be unique. If you dissent and are seen as a threat to "THE ONE," you will be investigated and destroyed.

The cute little munchkins singing the Obama song is but a reminder of what is done in tyrannies around the world and throughout history. They sing to their glorious leader. It is not cute. It is frightening.

Obama will do what every tyrant does to solidify power. He will come after guns. Guns in the hands of citizens are a grave threat to a totalitarian. There is already talk of a federal ban on concealed carry permits.

Again, please do not call Obama a Nazi. It diminishes our argument. He is a extremest socialist and has all the indications of being a tyrant, who is not bound by any Constitutional restraints. He is a megalomaniac, believing himself to be the new messiah. It doesn't get much more dangerous than that.

As historical reference only, because it is the classic example, here are some excerpts from Gellately's book. Here is the German version of the Civilian National Security Force. It had a single name: Gestapo. But don't worry. Tyranny can never happen here because we a Constitution. Our leaders swear an oath to preserve, protect, and defend it. Right?




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cdf; nationalsocialist; obama
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This discussion did not even examine what Obama will do in foreign policy. His statements can lead to a logical conclusion that he is going to substantially disarm us. This community organizer is in way, way over his head. Our enemies are drooling and planning for the unthinkable commander in chief. God, save this Republic.
1 posted on 11/02/2008 12:09:32 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

How can you possibly suggest a Civilian National Security Force without acknowledging that civilians must be armed? Is this guy dillusional?

[Yes.]


2 posted on 11/02/2008 12:15:13 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

There is a catch. Only his loyalists will be armed.


3 posted on 11/02/2008 12:19:10 PM PST by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

My only question is:

Will they wear brown shirts or drab olive?


4 posted on 11/02/2008 12:20:18 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: doug from upland

Obama’s not a Nazi, but he sure as hell is a fascist.


5 posted on 11/02/2008 12:21:32 PM PST by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: doug from upland
I hope I do not read anyone on FR calling Barack Obama a Nazi.

That would be incorrect characterization, of course. While Obama is a fascist, just like the Nazis, the Nazis were National Socialists, with a tinge of bizarre racial thinking thrown in for good measure. Obama is an International Socialist, which is actually a Communist.

Of course, I would also point out that International Socialists are much more blood thirsty than National Socialists. Hitler was a piker. He only killed 13 million total, 6 million of which were Jews, with every resource of the state directed toward that end. Stalin and Mao killed 20 million each, and hardly even tried.

6 posted on 11/02/2008 12:22:12 PM PST by Hardastarboard (0bama's past associations need a good "Ayering out".)
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To: doug from upland
I just think of all the rights we've already given up under the guise of "public safety" and shudder.

Registering everyone, their address and other info (e-mail addresses, FR screen names) with the police, for example. We required that of convicted sex offenders, ex post facto, and SCOTUS had no problem with that -- so the Obamanoids will be able to require that of everyone.

Just one example. And Obama's Himmler will use registered sex offenders to open the door to the "separate but equal" camps. (Not that anyone on FR will complain, until it becomes their turn.)

7 posted on 11/02/2008 12:22:35 PM PST by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: doug from upland
Are you ready for Barack Obama's CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE

What exactly is meant by "ready"?

8 posted on 11/02/2008 12:22:59 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Will they wear brown shirts or drab olive?

Green. Bet on it.

9 posted on 11/02/2008 12:23:30 PM PST by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: Hardastarboard
Yes, 0bama certainly has internationalist elements to his socialism ... but he is also a racist socialist, and therefore not at all far from Hitlerian National Socialism.

This pernicious notion that Hitler was somehow unique, and nobody may ever be compared to him, is dead wrong.

10 posted on 11/02/2008 12:25:37 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: doug from upland

Someone, anyone, everyone who reads this thread, please, come up with a feasible social situation where Obama might “use” or deploy his security force. I have my own ideas, which I believe are logical, I would like to hear the scenarios of others.


11 posted on 11/02/2008 12:25:38 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: ArrogantBustard

Are you ready to accept it or be forced into a re-education camp?


12 posted on 11/02/2008 12:29:12 PM PST by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Brilliant

Civilian in “name only” seems to be the order of the day.

However, the CNSF could just as easily be a force of listeners who then pass that information on to regular political commissars who control the uniformed police.


13 posted on 11/02/2008 12:29:18 PM PST by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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To: doug from upland
**The cute little munchkins singing the Obama song ... It is not cute. It is frightening.**

In all Honesty, tho, when I first saw the OBAMA YOUTH singing, my mind went to the Movie “CABARET” There is a scene of a HITLER YOUTH Singing a song, and slowly the audience starts singing along.

While I try Not to use the term NAZI, for the reasons you stated, I cannot call them a “politically corrected” Liberal, for they left LIBERAL behind years ago.

Funny tho, I upset several people locally by referring to “THE ONE” as a Marxist.. I backed down a bit.. ok, maybe not a Marxist, but he IS a Socialist .. a National Socialist. They accepted that as tho I called him a DEMOCRAT ...

GOD HELP US ALL!!

14 posted on 11/02/2008 12:30:44 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (HITLER offered Hope and Change!!)
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To: doug from upland

And notice how blithely he inserts things like this in the middle of his speeches, and how the unthinking idiots who’ve been applauding him just continue applauding him right on through this mind-boggling policy position, which they weren’t even given time to absorb. Obama sees that as confirmation and affirmation: “you heard me say it, right?
You applauded. You support me , right? So you support everything I said”.


15 posted on 11/02/2008 12:30:54 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: doug from upland

If Barrack Hussein 0Bama is POTUS, we will have the
CCCP ( Communist Conformation Compelling Police )
based on ACORN, the Weathermen and other thugs.


16 posted on 11/02/2008 12:33:53 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
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To: supremedoctrine
Any type of large scale attack from Islamists would be a start. Invoke martial law, their version of the Patriot Act, that sort of thing.

Periods of genuine liberty in human history are few and far between, you know.

17 posted on 11/02/2008 12:35:04 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: doug from upland

Thank you for the explanation.


18 posted on 11/02/2008 12:38:27 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: supremedoctrine
Someone, anyone, everyone who reads this thread, please, come up with a feasible social situation where Obama might “use” or deploy his security force. I have my own ideas, which I believe are logical, I would like to hear the scenarios of others.

You have already seen some of it in action. Using lawyers to sue radio stations to shut up the opposition. Attempts to send law enforcement to shut up his opponents. He's already doing these things as a candidate. Just watch what he does with actual executive power as a President.

19 posted on 11/02/2008 12:39:45 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: supremedoctrine

That was a stunning part of the speech -— watching the reaction. It looked like two guys behind him with Navy ballcaps cheering on this crap.


20 posted on 11/02/2008 12:40:20 PM PST by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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