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Having an Obama In Its Future--- Good Or Bad For US?
SAAG ^ | 10302008 | B. Raman

Posted on 10/30/2008 11:05:14 AM PDT by swarthyguy

Having an Obama In Its Future--- Good Or Bad For US?

By B. Raman

The world has seen made-in-the-Internet scholars, made-in-the-Internet stock-brokers, made-in-the-Internet lovers and even made-in-the-Internet terrorists.

If Senator Barrack Obama is elected the President of the United States on November 4, the US and the rest of the world will be seeing for the first time a made-in-the-Internet President.

The way his advisers and entourage have effectively used the Internet to make him known to the people, to collect funds for him and to project him as a right-thinking person, who will take the US into a brave new world, will form the theme of many likely best-sellers if he wins the elections, as he seems destined to do.

Large sections of the American people are in a state of guilt----- over having suppressed the Blacks for so many years, over having supported President Bush and his Neo Conservatives in their Iraq adventure under the pretext of removing non-existent weapons of mass destruction, and over so many other perceived wrongs of the Bush Administration.

What better way of ridding themselves of their gnawing sense of guilt than to vote for a candidate, who is an Afro-American and who promises to rid the US of the legacies of the Bush administration. Just by casting their vote for him on November 4, they would in one stroke be able to get rid of all their guilt feelings and start a new life as Americans. So they think. As they stand before the voting machine, it will be their hour of the confessional ---- that they were wrong in having supported Bush.

His advisers and entourage have skillfully exploited the widely prevalent mood of guilt in the US to project him as a transformational figure (to quote Colin Powell) the like of which comes but rarely. Vote for Obama and vote for all that that is good and great in the US.

The liberals---- in the civil society, in the media, among the opinion-makers--- have made Obama seem a cult figure. For them, it will be blasphemous to ask questions about his past, to find out who he really is.

Had a white been the Democratic candidate like Senator John McCain, the Republican candidate, they would not have had the least qualms in researching into his past and in dissecting every inch of him.

How can one do it for a transformational, cult figure? Cult figures have to be accepted as such without questions. How can one do that for a Black, who is on the threshold of history by being the first Black to become the President of the US? To question his past and his credentials would be racist. So the American voters have been told.

Can anyone in the US or in the rest of the world assert that he knows Obama well ---- his past and his present and what he will be in future? Future is the child of the past.

Obama is a mix of two vintages. The old pre-2006 vintage and the new post-2006 one. All his admirers know Obama of the new vintage. How many know Obama of the old vintage?

Very few. There is no desire to find out either.

Obama of the new vintage has nothing but the highest words of praise for India and Indians. He wants to continue with Bush’s policy of promoting a strategic relationship with India.

What about Obama of the old vintage? Cautious and reserved in exuding any warmth for India and the Indians lest his Pakistani friends and constituents misunderstand.

It is said that as a student he had more Pakistani friends than Indians. He felt more comfortable in the company of the Pakistanis than Indians. It was his choice and nobody could grudge it.

It was at the invitation of one of his Pakistani friends that he visited Islamabad, Karachi and Hyderabad (Sind) in the 1980s. Nobody can hold that against him.

As an Indian, one will be but human if one felt troubled that he did not disclose this till he became the Presidential candidate. He disclosed this----as if in passing--- when it was alleged that he did not understand the Islamic world and its divisions. He mentioned his visit to Pakistan to show that he knew about the divisions in Islam, about the Shia-Sunni differences.

Why did he keep mum on his visit to Pakistan till this question was raised? Has he disclosed all the details regarding his Pakistan visit? Was it as innocuous as made out by him----to respond to the invitation of a Pakistani friend or was there something more to it?

One would have expected the US journalists to have gone into this, to have quizzed him on it. But, they didn’t.

As I read about Obama’s visit to Pakistan in the 1980s, I could not help thinking of dozens of things. Of the Afghan jihad against communism. Of the fascination of many Afro-Americans for the jihad. Of the visits of a stream of Afro-Americans to Pakistan to feel the greatness of the jihad. Of their fascination for Abdullah Azzam, who came to Pakistan in the 1980s and started teaching in the International Islamic University in Islamabad. Of the fascination of some Afro-Americans for him. Of the frequent visits of Cat Stevens, the pop singer, to Pakistan and of his fascination for Islam and the on-going jihad. Of his conversion to Islam.

One might think that I am morbid in entertaining such thoughts and questions in my mind. But morbidity is understandable when one has a feeling that one has not been told the whole story, but only a part of it.

It is the right of the Americans to decide who should be their President. It is my right to worry about the implications of their decision for the rest of the world, including India.

(The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; obama; pakistan; swarthyguy
Indo Centric, ex-intel officer concerns and thoughts on Obama.
1 posted on 10/30/2008 11:05:16 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Shermy; Cronos; livius; sukhoi-30mki; marron; Kenny Bunk; Travis McGee

FWIW.


2 posted on 10/30/2008 11:07:36 AM PDT by swarthyguy ( Bush Promised us Osama, but instead we're getting Obama)
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To: swarthyguy

Good or bad? How about bad and ugly?


3 posted on 10/30/2008 11:12:50 AM PDT by Ingtar (Go Palin! And the white-haired guy too, I suppose. '08)
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“He mentioned his visit to Pakistan to show that he knew about the divisions in Islam, about the Shia-Sunni differences.

Why did he keep mum on his visit to Pakistan till this question was raised?”

Why did he not mention his going hunting in Pakistan?

Because if put to close examination, his sojourn to Pakistan was a drunken or stoned party with rich Pakistani kids rather than research into world politics, as rich white kids think their train trip in Europe should be considered when they run for politics.


4 posted on 10/30/2008 11:16:47 AM PDT by Shermy ( "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter,")
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To: swarthyguy
It is the right of the Americans to decide who should be their President. It is my right to worry about the implications of their decision for the rest of the world, including India.

You're right to worry. I'm worried.

Americans are being conned. But when people want to be conned, there isn't much you can do. When people want to be deceived the truth only makes them angry.

5 posted on 10/30/2008 11:20:23 AM PDT by marron
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To: Shermy

>>sojourn to Pakistan was a drunken or stoned party

But Raman’s concern is that he may have well paid a visit to witness jihad firsthand and imbibe some of the ideologytheology.


6 posted on 10/30/2008 11:27:26 AM PDT by swarthyguy ( Bush Promised us Osama, but instead we're getting Obama)
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Phooey on the internet part. They said that about Howard Dean, too. It doesn’t hurt Obama to have good internet organization, but I wouldn’t disregard the fact that the Dinosaur Media is as behind him as the black community is.


7 posted on 10/30/2008 11:33:36 AM PDT by Tublecane
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.....How many know Obama of the old vintage? Very few. There is no desire to find out either....

Whether or not the desire to know about Obama's credentials exists, the opposition has the obligation to bring it out and lay it in the full light of day. This McC and the RNC have most emphatically NOT done. One can, as with Clinton, learn more about the real Obama by reading the news from the UK than one could ever learn from the domestic media.

8 posted on 10/30/2008 11:54:23 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Marxist Muslim Cousin Odinga burned Christians in their churches. Obama bought him the gas.)
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To: swarthyguy; Shermy; Cronos; livius; sukhoi-30mki; marron; Travis McGee
.....How many know Obama of the old vintage? Very few. There is no desire to find out either....

Whether or not the desire to know about Obama's credentials exists, the opposition has the obligation to bring it out and lay it in the full light of day. This McC and the RNC have most emphatically NOT done. One can, as with Clinton, learn more about the real Obama by reading the news from the UK than one could ever learn from the domestic media.

9 posted on 10/30/2008 11:54:43 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Marxist Muslim Cousin Odinga burned Christians in their churches. Obama bought him the gas.)
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To: swarthyguy

It’s good if we want a revolution that would mean the end of Congress (as we know it: corrupt to the core) and a strong right-wing dictator for a decade or so.


10 posted on 10/30/2008 12:05:10 PM PDT by IbJensen (Don't Be An Obombazombie!)
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I just responded to another post about Obama’s past at Columbia University. The problem is, as I keep pointing out, that he didn’t go to Columbia University. He went to Columbia College, which was a semi-external degree program for people whose grades were not good enough to be accepted for the university’s undergraduate program, older students, or people who were working and couldn’t attend classes regularly. You could, however, get a BA from Columbia College.

Obama was identified by Khalidi while in this external degreee program, from which he graduated with suitable anonymity, and sent to Harvard by him.

The only person who has ever mentioned knowing Obama as an undergrad in NY is somebody who attended a seminar with him. That’s because Columbia College did not have classes but instead had less-frequent seminars that the students were expected to attend. I don’t remember the frequency, but they were not even weekly.


11 posted on 10/30/2008 12:09:35 PM PDT by livius
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>>He went to Columbia College

Ha, live and learn, thanks, Livius. Interesting, bet like me, 90% assumed University. Big Difference.

Now that sounds like one of those alternative learning thingies popular in the 70’s.

But I do know that facts seem to run off Obama’s back like the proverbial waters off a duck’s.


12 posted on 10/30/2008 12:54:42 PM PDT by swarthyguy ( Bush Promised us Osama, but instead we're getting Obama)
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To: swarthyguy

1916: Having Lenin in its future... good or bad for Russia?
1932: Having Hitler in its future... good or bad for Germany?
1948: Having Mao in its future... good or bad for China?
1976: Having Khomeini in its future... good or bad for Iran?


13 posted on 10/30/2008 6:02:04 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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