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China cuts interest rates again as growth cools(demands on Chinese goods falling fast)
Telegraph ^ | 10/29/08 | Malcolm Moore

Posted on 10/29/2008 6:02:52 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

China cuts interest rates again as growth cools

The People's Bank of China cut its main interest rate again today without any warning or explanation.

By Malcolm Moore in Shanghai

Last Updated: 12:54PM GMT 29 Oct 2008

It was the third time that the Chinese central bank has cut rates in the past two months. It informed banks that the key one-year lending rate will fall to 6.66pc from 6.93pc, effective from Thursday.

The country's policy makers were the first to act after the collapse of Lehman Brothers helped deepen the worst financial crisis since the 1930s. China slashed its interest rate for the first time in five years, after spending much of the past year battling record levels of inflation.

However, the prospect of a global recession has worried Beijing and China's economic model that is so reliant on the ability of Americans and Europeans to keep buying cheap Chinese imports. Industry analysts believe as many as 3m factory workers in Southern China could lose their jobs by the beginning of next year.

Mark Williams, an economist at Capital Economics, said that with inflation falling, the government would "now focus on ensuring that growth does not fall too much further".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; export; ratecut; slowdown

1 posted on 10/29/2008 6:02:53 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/29/2008 6:06:15 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Demands on Chinese goods falling fast

Gee, I wonder why.

3 posted on 10/29/2008 6:10:42 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame

Their melamine sandwiches are delicious.


4 posted on 10/29/2008 6:16:47 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
melamine sandwiches dipped in antifreeze, and sprayed with formaldehyde.
5 posted on 10/29/2008 6:19:48 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Was talking to a fellow yesterday. He said that the Chinese own 10 percent of our debt. Also said that it is much harder to determine how much is owned by the Middle East (Saudi’s, etc) because of their involvement in the international banking interests. Wonder if Obama will default if the foreigners quit buying our debt.
6 posted on 10/29/2008 6:30:22 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Western Phil

Evidently, the Chinese also own Hank Paulson, who will make sure they are represented at the buffet table along with the Saudi’s and their America stooges, er former Congress-pimps, Presi-pimps, State Dept pimps...etc, etc.


7 posted on 10/29/2008 6:34:58 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Western Phil
MAJOR FOREIGN HOLDERS OF TREASURY SECURITIES
(in billions of dollars)
HOLDINGS  1/ AT END OF PERIOD
Jul Jun May Apr Mar Feb Jan Dec Nov Oct Sep Aug Jul
Country 2008 2008 2008 2008 2008 2008 2008 2007 2007 2007 2007 2007 2007
Japan 593.4 583.8 578.7 592.2 600.7 586.6 586.9 581.2 590.9 601.7 591.9 595.8 620.6
China, Main land 518.7 503.8 506.8 502 490.6 486.9 492.6 477.6 458.9 459.1 467.7 471.2 480
United Kingdom 2/ 290.8 280.4 272.5 247.8 201.1 181.1 161.9 158.1 174.3 155 120.3 99.8 67.3
Oil Exporters 3/ 173.9 170.4 164.3 153.9 150.8 146.1 140.9 137.9 138.7 141.6 137.1 134.7 134.7
Brazil 148.4 151.6 151.4 149.5 149.1 146.6 141.7 129.9 121.7 113.9 110.5 107.7 105.8
Carib Bnkng Ctrs 4/ 133.5 122.4 104.7 115.4 107.1 103 108.1 116.4 107.4 105.6 99.1 103.8 70.7
Luxembourg 75.8 88.6 80.4 84.8 92.7 83.1 68.4 69.7 68.3 63.3 58.4 57.1 57.6
Russia 74.1 65.3 63.7 60.2 42.4 38.4 35.2 32.7 33.5 33.6 31.8 31.9 35.9
Hong Kong 60.6 61.2 61.4 63.2 60.6 57.5 54.4 51.2 51.7 51.3 52.6 53.2 55.9
Switzerland 45.1 44.4 42.1 42.5 41.2 39.4 39.3 38.9 38.1 37.8 37 37.4 37.2
Taiwan 42.3 40.9 40.1 42.6 41.2 38.8 38.9 38.2 37.1 40.7 39.9 39.5 44.6
Norway 41.8 43.3 47.1 45.3 44.5 34 33.6 26.2 27.6 25.5 22.9 6.4 --
Germany 41.1 40.9 45 43.7 42.2 42.2 42.7 41.7 39.1 41.8 41.8 42.3 41.7
Mexico 36 42.5 40.4 38 38.8 36.5 35.6 34.4 32 30.5 30 30.2 34.9
Korea 35.3 36.5 38.5 40.5 40.7 41.4 42.1 39.2 37.8 37 39.4 42.6 44.4
Turkey 32.4 30.3 28.9 31.1 28.7 28.5 28.2 25.6 25.6 28.1 28.3 29.2 28.5
Thailand 31.8 32.4 32.8 27.9 25.7 30.5 28.9 27.4 27.5 22.8 24.7 22.9 22.5
Singapore 31.4 30.4 30.6 33.5 33.3 33.5 38.6 39.8 40.2 38.8 36.6 37.8 36.3
Canada 26.6 28.4 30.3 25.9 22 22.7 24.4 18.7 24.1 15.9 17.3 18.8 23.3
Netherlands 14.9 15.1 15.7 15.5 15.1 14.1 15.9 15.2 14.2 14.8 15.1 16.6 15.7
Poland 13.9 13.3 12.4 12.5 11.6 10.2 10.3 12.9 11.1 9.8 10.6 10.5 11.1
Egypt 13.4 12.3 12.8 12.7 12.7 12 11.6 10.4 10.6 9.9 9.9 10.1 10.2
Chile 13.1 11.7 11.1 10.1 9.7 8.6 9 8.7 8.5 7.5 6.8 7.6 7.4
India 13 11.7 10.3 10.5 11.8 14.4 14.6 14.9 14.8 14.9 10.8 12.1 14.1
Sweden 12.4 12.4 13.2 13.1 13.2 13.6 13.4 13.7 14.1 14.5 14.8 15.7 15.5
Belgium 12 12.4 12.4 12.5 12.8 13.2 13.1 13.2 14.2 14.6 14.6 14.6 15.4
Ireland 11.2 14.2 15.8 18.5 17.8 15.6 15.6 18.7 17.5 17 16.3 16.8 15.6
All Other 139.5 145.8 147.7 148.6 155.4 155.6 157.8 160.6 157.7 152.1 149.4 151.1 154.3
Grand Total 2676.4 2646.5 2611.2 2594.1 2513.8 2434.1 2403.8 2353.2 2337.1 2299.2 2235.3 2217.5 2201
Of which:
For. Official 1767.6 1751.7 1743.9 1743.4 1706.6 1681.6 1688 1641.1 1619.1 1613.8 1607.7 1595.1 1621
Treasury Bills 232.5 226.7 220 215.7 201.3 204.3 207.1 196.3 185.3 180.4 178.3 180 176.2
T-Bonds & Notes 1535.1 1525 1523.9 1527.6 1505.3 1477.3 1480.9 1444.8 1433.8 1433.4 1429.4 1415.1 1444.7
Department of the Treasury/Federal Reserve Board
September 16, 2008

 1/  Estimated foreign holdings of U.S. Treasury marketable and non-marketable bills, bonds, and notes
     reported under the Treasury International Capital (TIC) reporting system are based on annual
     Surveys of Foreign Holdings of U.S. Securities and on monthly data.
 2/  United Kingdom includes Channel Islands and Isle of Man.
 3/  Oil exporters include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar,
     Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria.
 4/  Caribbean Banking Centers include Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Netherlands Antilles and Panama.
     Beginning with new series for June 2006, also includes British Virgin Islands.

8 posted on 10/29/2008 6:42:36 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: iopscusa
Kissing-pimp, Brzenzin-pimp, GWHB-pimp, Zero-pimp, Condi-pimp, Colin-pimp, Soros-pimp, Bubba-pimp...the list goes on.
9 posted on 10/29/2008 6:45:56 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks.

Quite interesting times in which we live.


10 posted on 10/29/2008 7:13:24 AM PDT by Western Phil
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China cuts interest rates as demand plummits?

Funny how that happens when people discover the stuff they have been buying from China was liable to kill you.


11 posted on 10/29/2008 7:26:45 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Given the rather substantial inflation in the PRC one has to think that interest rates this low imply at least a negative 500 bips real rate.

And we thought the US had a debt driven asset bubble.

jas3


12 posted on 10/29/2008 5:52:43 PM PDT by jas3
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To: jas3
Chinese companies frequently pushes products out to foreign markets below production cost. This is a widespread implicit subsidy by gov to get people employed and keep up a great facade of fast growth.

As a result, they get tons of dollars and maintain huge foreign currency reserve, with which they get to play world financial player these days. On the domestic side, massive inflow of export revenue means too much money inside China, after huge amount of Reminbi exchanged with dollars hit the domestic markets.

Yes, China is creating a debt-driven bubble in its own way. This bubble is more of a classic bubble.

Coupled with continued practice of crooked accounting among banking sector that is hiding accumulation of non-performing loans, China is also a ticking time bomb.

China should stay in high growth path to keep these problems at bay. When the growth is high, even when it is making things worse by selling things at loss, all tend to be tolerated. However when it slows down even to a moderate growth rate, all hell can break loose. Big fault lines in Chinese economy can all break.

Chinese regime has to run their economic train at high speed indefinitely, which is not sustainable. One of these days, U.S. economic problem will meet its match in China.

13 posted on 10/29/2008 9:22:31 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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