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Ohio Voter ID Lawsuit
AP ^ | Friday, 24 Oct 2008

Posted on 10/25/2008 5:26:30 AM PDT by Gorilla44

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Ohio's voter identification law will be in effect on Election Day.

Advocates for the homeless have dropped a federal lawsuit that challenged the law, which requires voters to show either a government-issued ID, such as a driver's license, or some other form that shows a name and address, such as a utility bill.

The Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless had argued that the law represented an unconstitutional poll tax. They also were concerned that many homeless voters would be forced to vote on provisional ballots because many don't have a valid ID.

An agreement reached Friday with Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner sets guidelines on how provisional ballots will be treated across all Ohio counties.


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Brunner's guidelines are here (pdf)

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/Upload/elections/directives/2008/Dir2008-101.pdf

1 posted on 10/25/2008 5:26:30 AM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: Gorilla44
Um, earth to writer, there isn't any "election day" anymore, communists fake votes as much as they want and as soon as they please.
2 posted on 10/25/2008 5:28:34 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ohio PIng


3 posted on 10/25/2008 5:39:15 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Gorilla44
If true, McCain just won.

Cheers!

4 posted on 10/25/2008 5:49:21 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Gorilla44; kesg; Chet 99; Perdogg; perfect_rovian_storm; PhiKapMom; Norman Bates; jveritas; ...
Ok, I'm no lawyer, but I've looked this over and it appears we win:

1) noting can be counted until after the election with a 10-day window;

2) anything challenged by the board of elections is marked and set aside, and additional information can be required;

3) SS#s that don't match get set aside;

4) the board of elections can demand additional information, and if there is no valid phone number, they aren't required to go track someone down.

5 posted on 10/25/2008 6:05:02 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Gorilla44
They also were concerned that many homeless voters would be forced to vote on provisional ballots because many don't have a valid ID.

Maybe not, but how many fake IDs have been provided to them and how much will they be paid for each Obama vote?

6 posted on 10/25/2008 6:06:20 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: All

not so quick folks, too much weasel to allow the fraudster of Ohio to get away with it.

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VI.GROUNDS FOR COUNTING OR INVALIDATING PROVISIONAL BALLOTS
Ohio Revised Code (”R.C.”) 3505.183 is the primary statutory lens through which boards of
elections must view provisional ballots and affirmations in order to determine the eligibility of
those provisional ballots for counting. It sets forth the steps through which a board or its staff
must go to determine the eligibility of a provisional ballot for counting.
A. Step 1 - Additional Information Required from Voter in Some Cases
R.C. 3505.183(E)(2) provides that boards of elections may not examine the
provisional ballot affirmation on the provisional ballot envelope of any provisional
ballot for which an election official has indicated the provisional voter must provide
additional information to the board of elections in order to ensure that the
provisional ballot will count. Thus, checking for this statement by an election official
must be the first step in determining a provisional ballot’s eligibility to be counted.
1. No additional information required
Directive 2008-101 Guidelines for Determining Validity of Provisional Ballots Page 4 of 10
If no such statement by an election official appears on the provisional ballot
envelope then the board staff responsible for processing provisional ballots
may proceed to Step 2.
2. Additional information required
If such a statement by an election official appears on a provisional ballot
envelope then the board staff responsible for processing provisional ballots
must segregate that ballot and store it, still in its envelope, in accordance with
this directive until the provisional voter provides the required additional
information.
a) Additional information required during 10 days after election
Pursuant to R.C. 350S.l8l(B)(8), there are only four categories of
provisional voters who are required to provide additional information
to the board of elections during the ten days after the day of an
election in order for their ballots to be counted:
(1) An individual who has but is unable to provide to precinct
election officials any of the forms of identification required under
R.C. 3505.l8(A)(1), and who has a social security number but is
unable to provide the last four digits of his or her social security
number under R.C. 3505.l8(A)(2);
(2) An individual who is challenged under R.C. 3505.20 and is
determined to be ineligible to vote or whose eligibility to vote
cannot be determined by election officials
(3) An individual who does not have any of the forms of
identification required under R.C. 3505.l8(A)(1), who cannot
provide the last four digits of the individual’s social security
number under R.C. 3505.l8(A)(2) because the person does not
have a social security number, and who declines to execute an
affirmation (SOS Form lo-T) under R.C. 3505.l8(A)(4); and
(4) An individual who has, but declines to provide to precinct
election officials, any of the forms of identification required under
R.C. 3505.l8(A)(l), and who has a social security number but
declines to provide to the precinct election officials the last four
digits of his or her social security number.
b) This section is specific to the aforestated court action and its
attempted settlement. Contacting voters to provide additional
information during ten days
If a board of elections or board staff determine during the 1o-day
period that a provisional voter falls into one of the four categories
listed above, the board must attempt once to contact the voter by
telephone, if a telephone number is available, to remind the voter:
Directive 2008-101 Guidelines for Determining Validity of Provisional Ballots Page 5 OflO
(1) that he or she is required to provide additional information to
the board by the tenth day after the election for the provisional
ballot to count; and
(2) what additional information is required.
If a board of elections does not have a telephone number for a
particular voter, it need not conduct an exhaustive search to attempt
to locate a telephone number for that voter, but should document any
efforts undertaken to contact the voter.
During the first five days after the day of an election a board of
elections may communicate the information “listed in the list
immediately above by postcard or letter rather than by telephone.
c) Additional information required at post-election challenge hearing
If a voter’s registration is challenged by another Ohio voter under R.C.
3503.24 and the board of elections considering the challenge
postpones the hearing until after the day of the election, the voter
must vote provisionally at that election and must provide additional
information to the board at the hearing, if so requested, in order to
ensure that his or her provisional ballot will count.
Upon receipt of the required additional information under this step of this
directive, the board staff responsible for processing provisional ballots may
proceed to Step 2.
3. Failure to provide additional required information
A provisional ballot that is cast by any voter who is required by Ohio law or
this directive to provide additional information to a board of elections cannot
be counted unless and until that voter provides the required information,
pursuant to R.C. 3505.181(A)(7). Mer the board of elections determines that
the required information was not provided, the board staff responsible for
processing provisional ballots shall proceed to Step 5.


7 posted on 10/25/2008 6:16:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: libertylover

Brunner’s guidelines are 10 pages of obfuscation.

It allows mega execetpions.


8 posted on 10/25/2008 6:18:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gorilla44

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/Upload/elections/directives/2008/Dir2008-101.pdf


9 posted on 10/25/2008 6:19:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Most of that has to do with what happens IF the ballot is challenged.

The ballot is set aside for 10 days and that is the important aspect of the plan.

ACORN was hoping to sneak those votes in before the election was decided.

10 posted on 10/25/2008 6:26:16 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: LS

AWESOME! Looks like Brunner filed all those suits and cost the State of Ohio a lot money and the fraudulent ballots are still going to be thrown out just like last time.

You need to oust the current Attorney General as well!

McCain headed to Dayton to secure Montgomery County which will be the icing on the cake election night!


11 posted on 10/25/2008 7:00:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Gorilla44

The libs have been fighting from the get go about provisional ballots. They are trying to get as many people as possible to vote with a real ballot, because, once voted, you cannot challenge and pull out that individual vote. We have a chance if many of these fake votes go provisional, they can be challenged and not counted.


12 posted on 10/25/2008 7:21:11 AM PDT by sportutegrl (0bi has been looking a little wan.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Be specific. I thought they are pretty clear, esp. since there will be Republican observers (and, most likely, Republicans on the boards of elections).

Show me specifically how someone violates this---and remember, NOTHING GETS COUNTED OR EVEN EXAMINED UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.

13 posted on 10/25/2008 7:59:02 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: fortheDeclaration

That was how I read this.


14 posted on 10/25/2008 7:59:24 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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