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'I'll say what I believe — space aliens' Documents show pilot ordered to blast 24 rockets at UFO
Edmunton Sun ^ | October 21, 2008 | Thane Burnett

Posted on 10/23/2008 4:37:18 AM PDT by billorites

For more than a half a century, those few humans who knew about the time Milton Torres battled a giant UFO had only his word as proof.

Yesterday, after British officials released previously classified Ministry of Defense 'X-files', the world found out the secret that Milton — now a retired civil engineering professor living in Miami — was ordered never to reveal.

According to the documents, on the night of May 20, 1957, the former U.S. F-86D Sabre pilot was told by his U.K. commanders to unload all 24 of his rockets on a mysterious object moving over the sleepy community of Norwich.

That makes him the only known military fighter pilot on Earth ever to officially be commanded to engage an unidentified flying object.

"I'll say what I believe — space aliens," he told Sun Media from his home in Miami. "I don't believe it was of this Earth."

Even before he took off, the British-based American lieutenant was told to "arm all weapons and fire on sight," as he went up against a radar signature which was almost the size of an aircraft carrier.

Running with most lights off, he guided his plane and checked instruments with only a flashlight.

He remembers he felt like he was going to strike the first blow in a war.

"It all came out of nowhere that night," he said of the mysterious blip on his screen and the orders he was given.

His jet was screaming in, still about 15 miles away, and he was preparing to let all of his rockets go. He never saw what he was about to attack because of cloud cover which masked the most important details of the confrontation.

Just as the 24-year-old airman was closing in at almost 700 mph, though, the image vanished from his instruments.

"It moved faster than anything we were capable of," he recalls.

Officials recorded that the "aircraft" was likely Russian.

"I was told never to reveal what happened if I ever wanted to fly again," Milton says, recalling an American in a trench-coat who flashed a National Security Agency I.D. card in the pilot's face.

But there were moments when he couldn't hold the secret inside anymore. Over the years, he told a few people, including a military historian in 1988, who could not find any mention of the incident through official means. Yesterday, with the release of the documents for the first time, Milton finally felt at ease to recount out loud the moment modern warfare and the stuff of science-fiction almost came to blows.

"It was an amazing night, and I never thought the truth would be told," he said. "But I still don't know what it was."

Milton told his son, who carries his name, about the face-off a few years ago.

"What you have to keep in mind, is that this man, as well as being a jet pilot, is extremely well educated," Milton Torres Jr. said of his father, who holds three degrees, including a doctorate.

"The blip was burning a hole in the radar with its incredible intensity," the pilot wrote in his report. "(It) seemed to be a magnet of light."

"To know it wasn't just something I imagined is enough," the 77-year-old, one-time ace now says.

To this day, when he goes outside, he always looks up, half expecting to catch a glimpse of the prey that escaped him that night.

His file is one of 19 reports that have now been released by the British National Archives (http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/) — the second batch of documents to be aired since May.

Some of the other odd revelations include a note that the British Ministry of Defense asked Army and Navy helicopters not to photograph crop circles — for fear of undermining their official line that they would not investigate unexplained phenomena — and how a passenger jet landing at Heathrow airport came close to a brown, missile-shaped UFO in 1991.

Other less menacing accounts include a woman who claimed to be a space alien who fell to earth during the Second World War, and how a Tina Turner concert in 1989 led to a large number of UFO sightings.


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1 posted on 10/23/2008 4:37:19 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites
Tina Turner concert in 1989 led to a large number of UFO sightings.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

2 posted on 10/23/2008 4:45:10 AM PDT by itsthejourney (1 of every 10 people you pass in the mall is here illegally)
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To: billorites

The number of rockets sounds bogus...


3 posted on 10/23/2008 4:49:29 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: billorites

The professor told his class one day, ‘Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. As homework tonight, one of you will write the first paragraph of a short story. You will e-mail your partner that paragraph and send another copy to me. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story and send it back, also sending another copy to me. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back-and-forth. Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. There is to be absolutely NO talking outside of the e-mails and anything you wish to say must be written in the e-mail. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached.’
The following was actually turned in by two of his English students: Rebecca and Gary.

——————————————-
THE STORY

(first paragraph by Rebecca)
At first, Laurie couldn’t decide which kind of tea she wanted. The chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked chamomile. But she f elt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So chamomile was out of the question.

(second paragraph by Gary )
Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had
spent one sweaty night over a year ago. ‘A.S. Harris to Geostation 17,’ he said into his transgalactic communicator. ‘Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far…’ But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship’s cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the cockpit.

(Rebecca)
He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. ‘Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel,’ Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window,=2 0dreaming of her youth, when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspaper to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. ‘Why must one lose one’s innocence to become a woman?’ she wondered wistfully..

( Gary )
Little did she know, but she had less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu’udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dim-witted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the
Unilateral Aerospace disarmament Treaty through the congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty
the Anu’udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the entire planet. With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan.. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion, which immediately vaporized poor, stupid Laurie .

(Rebecca)
This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic semi-literate adolescent.

( Gary )
Yeah? Well, my writing partner is a self-centered tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. ‘Oh, shall I have chamomile tea? Or shall I have some other sort of F**KING TEA??? Oh no, what am I to do? I’m such an air headed bimbo who reads too many Danielle Steele novels!’

(Rebecca)
Asshole!

( Gary )
Bitch!

(Rebecca)

F**K YOU - YOU NEANDERTHAL!

( Gary )
Go drink some tea - whore.

(TEACHER)
A+ (I really liked this one.)


4 posted on 10/23/2008 4:50:40 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: billorites

5 posted on 10/23/2008 4:56:03 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: johnny7
We went over this a few days ago.

Look up specs on the F-86D. Be sure that you're researching the "D" model ... it was very different from its predecessors, in both its engine and its armament.

6 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:19 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: billorites

Why am I put in mind of the Star Trek Insurrectioin movie with the huge cloaked research station up in the hills. (Of course, for plot’s sake, that thing was so close to the ones it studied it didn’t have the luxury of moving.)


7 posted on 10/23/2008 5:00:35 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: billorites
Here's a link to thumbnails (click to read actual MOD release) of the pilot's report of the Norwich event.

The report was filed quite a bit later than the actual event but it is clear that the pilot and ground control knew what was being targeted was a "bogey".

Here's the link...Thumbnails.

Source: MOD UK report defe-24-1931, pages 260-262 (the pages preceding 260-262 have MOD transmittal letters for this report)

8 posted on 10/23/2008 5:01:06 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: billorites
I don't suppose that this is the guy who ordered the strike.


9 posted on 10/23/2008 5:01:06 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
ROFL!!!!

Seen it before ... some things just never get old.

10 posted on 10/23/2008 5:03:31 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Thamks for the laugh this AM!!!.


11 posted on 10/23/2008 5:07:45 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Mcwhatshisname/PALIN, '08!!!)
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To: billorites

Command sent only 1 jet to battle an object the size of an aircraft carrier.
I thought Sabre jets had guns only, no missiles, let alone 24 which I doubt would fit on the airframe.
It sounds like he never saw the object, only a blip on his radar.
He never fired at it, which is good since something that large and fast would swat him out of the sky like an fly.
Someone has a very active imagination.


12 posted on 10/23/2008 5:09:25 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: jmcenanly
No, I think it was this person.

:-)

13 posted on 10/23/2008 5:11:24 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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To: johnny7

It checks out on the F-86 page at Wikipedia: “F-86D ...Armament was 24 FFAR 2.75-inch (70 mm) ‘Mighty Mouse’ with 7.55-pound explosive warhead, 2,500 ft/s (760 m/s) at burnout, a range of 4,500 yards (4,100 m)”


14 posted on 10/23/2008 5:15:26 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Everything's a lie and that's a fact. Life is a lemon and I want my money back!")
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To: billorites
an American in a trench-coat who flashed a National Security Agency I.D. card


15 posted on 10/23/2008 5:15:56 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Does anyone remember how to search?)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Thanks for the morning laugh, I needed that.


16 posted on 10/23/2008 5:16:57 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: johnny7

Sounds like a type of rocket cluster normally used for air to ground.

I suppose you could fire them point-blank at a flying target in a shotgun type blast, but they would be unguided, most would miss and then they would fall to earth and go boom-boombity-bop BOOM.

I call BS on this.


17 posted on 10/23/2008 5:18:53 AM PDT by Ronin
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Or maybe both the pilot and ground control had no idea what they were dealing with and called it a bogey for illustration purposes during the dog fight just like in

:)

18 posted on 10/23/2008 5:20:44 AM PDT by agrace
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To: johnny7

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=362


19 posted on 10/23/2008 5:34:22 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................A four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Ronin
From the link in post#19

The interception radar (from Hughes Aircraft Co.) and associated fire-control computed the target's position, guided the aircraft on an intercept course to within 500 yards of the target, lowered the retractable tray of 24 rockets, and fired the rockets automatically. The effect of these weapons would have been devastating to an enemy bomber because each 2.75-inch Mighty Mouse folding fin aircraft rocket (FFAR) contained the power of a 75mm artillery shell.

20 posted on 10/23/2008 5:46:05 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................A four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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