Thai Police Used Chinese-Made "Explosive" Tear Gas(lethal crap:too much RDX)

Nasdaq ^ | 10/14/08

[TigerLikesRooster]

Thai Police Used Chinese-Made "Explosive" Tear Gas

(RTTNews) - Thai investigators have concluded that Chinese-made tear gas canisters used by the police during an anti-government protest rally last week contained a powerful explosive, possibly RDX - a substance that is used as a major component in many military explosives, media reports said.

Evidence collected by the forensic team led by Porntip Rojanasunan, Justice Ministry'sCentral Institute of Forensic Science director, revealed that tear gas canisters imported from China contained explosive components as wounds found on the body of a dead victim matched with the size of the tear gas canisters.

The team said that the presence of RDX could explain why three people were killed and several others had limbs and feet blown off.

Surasee Kosolnawin, National Human Rights Commissioner, who chaired the agency's fact-finding subcommittee, said among the six types of tear gas used in last Tuesday's crowd dispersal, RDX was found in three of them and all were imported from China.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Ping!

[BGHater]

Probably had milk in the tear gas. Dangerous stuff, that Chinese milk.

[ConservativeMind]

That’s some strong tear gas! Yes, that could most definitely bring tears to my eyes, too, if I was still alive to cry.

[DieHard the Hunter]

Can one of our military FReepers please explain:

1) Tear gas, how it works, and
2) Why RDX would be in these Chinese cannisters?

Is tear gas anything like Mustard Gas? Mace? Pepper spray?

Cheers
*DieHard*

[guitarplayer1953]

Why would poison be in their milk? Why do they use lead paint on toys?

[DieHard the Hunter]

> Why would poison be in their milk? Why do they use lead paint on toys?

Obviously because they are ChiComs and ChiComs cheat.

What I’m asking is more technical than that: why would they put an explosive with tear gas? Would RDX make it work better? Does Tear Gas need an explosive to be effective?

(I’m a life-long civilian, and have only seen tear gas on TV)

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Made in China Explosive Tear Gas Ping!

[TigerLikesRooster]

I think it needs tiny amount of explosive to burst the tear gas canister open. Sometimes resulting shrapnel hurt protesters, but are not anywhere near this much injury.

[JimSEA]

Dangerous stuff, that Chinese milk

I know you are being sarcastic but Thailand has had a lot of problems with Chinese products including milk products. Of Course, China answers complaints with threats, so Chinese products are avoided by those who can tell which ones they are (not often labeled).

[guitarplayer1953]

At room temperature, it is very stable. It burns rather than explodes and detonates only with a detonator, being unaffected even by small arms fire. It is less sensitive than pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN). However, it is very sensitive when crystallized, below −4 °C.

The question should be does a tear gas canister need a detonator to operate?

[17th Miss Regt]

1) Tear gas, how it works, and 2) Why RDX would be in these Chinese cannisters?

Tear gas severely irritates the mucous membranes - thus tearing up of the eyes and severe coughing.

RDX is Research and Development Explosive. This was developed prior to WW II as a general use explosive for explosive projectiles, bombs and so on. Only a small amount would need to be used as a bursting charge. Production errors could cause a canister to have too much explosive and cause undesired casualties.

On the other hand, it is not beyond the realm of belief that the canisters were made to dispense gas and cause casualties - a deliberate design characteristic. But you would not want to deliver such canister to a foreign customer asking for plain vanilla tear gas grenades. It makes for real bad press.

In view of all the quality control problems showing up in Chinese products, I would guess a manufacturing error occurred.

[Secret Agent Man]

Hmmm, thought it may have had melamine in there.

[Chode]

China Industries International

Made in CHINA!!!

their new corporate logo...

[DUMBGRUNT]

I will guess that we are discussing ‘CS’ not teargas.
CS is a tear agent.
In this case an explosive was used to disperse the CS in power form.

CS gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CS_gas

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As 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile is a solid at room temperature, not a gas, a variety of techniques have been used to make this solid usable as an aerosol:

1.Melted and sprayed in the molten form.
2.Dissolved in organic solvent.
3.CS2 dry powder (CS2 is a siliconized, micro-pulverized form of CS).
4.CS from thermal grenades by generation of hot gases.[1]
In the Waco Siege, CS was dissolved in the organic solvent dichloromethane (also known as methylene chloride). When the volatile dichlormethane evaporated, the CS crystallized with the dichloromethane molecules as an aerosol.[1]

[cmdjing]

Cheap lethal crap? Hardly, the RDX is a value added feature. The American grenades the Thai police used simply leaked gas. A small explosive charge in the Chinese grenades means that the gas is dispersed faster, uniformly, and across a wider area. In addition to preventing protesters from throwing them back at the police. All of this at low low prices.

[RichInOC]

“Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?”

[TigerLikesRooster]

Really. I suppose blowing up limbs could help in some cases, but in other countries, such an incident could touch off massive uprising, which could topple a government. I guess Chinese gov has a better means to hold onto power, despite angry protests from people.

On top of that, maybe manufacturer are getting rid of inventories by exporting other countries, without telling them what kind of unwanted feature it has.

[DieHard the Hunter]

Cheers, mate — thanks for the explanation.

(and thanks for your Service! When I was a kid, Vietnam vets were my heroes. Still are.)

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