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Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths (Obama Has Met Ayers, but the Two Are Not Close)
nyt ^ | 10/3/08 | SCOTT SHANE

Posted on 10/03/2008 5:46:20 PM PDT by mathprof

At a tumultuous meeting of anti-Vietnam War militants at the Chicago Coliseum in 1969, Bill Ayers helped found the radical Weathermen, launching a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and United States Capitol.

Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Ayers hosted for Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors.

Their relationship has become a touchstone for Obama’s opponents. Video clips on YouTube, including a new ad that aired Friday, juxtapose Obama’s face with the young Mr. Ayers or grainy shots of the bombings. In a televised interview last spring, Senator John McCain, his Republican rival, asked: “How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?”

More recently, conservative critics who accuse Mr. Obama of a stealth radical agenda have asserted that he has misleadingly minimized his relationship with Mr. Ayers, whom the candidate has dismissed as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.”

A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”.

Obama campaign aides said the Ayers relationship had been greatly exaggerated by opponents to smear the candidate

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Well, NYT reporter SCOTT SHANE says that Obama and Ayers are not close. End of story. Drive-bys speaketh, Obama cleared. No story here!
1 posted on 10/03/2008 5:46:20 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: mathprof

They are worried that we have an October surprise coming concerning Ayers, the are already getting their spin out....hoping we do in a big way.


2 posted on 10/03/2008 5:48:22 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: mathprof
Note to NYT... We didn't just get off the turnip truck.

Ayers recruited Obama. Obama worked for him....

NYT staff is seriously depraved.

3 posted on 10/03/2008 5:49:56 PM PDT by xtinct (Suicide Hotline... !! "Obama here" --> Please Hold...)
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To: mathprof

LOL! Nice try Scotty boy.


4 posted on 10/03/2008 5:50:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS are "scared" of strong, intelligent women.)
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To: mathprof
They see the attack coming soon and are trying to pre-empt or short circuit it on Obamas behalf.

These people are totally corrupt.

5 posted on 10/03/2008 5:51:24 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: mathprof

NYT, BS Edition


6 posted on 10/03/2008 5:51:32 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: mathprof

“A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers,”

So why has Barak lied about it, Scott?


7 posted on 10/03/2008 5:52:18 PM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: ETL
Thought this would make you laugh.....or cry....LOL! ;)
8 posted on 10/03/2008 5:52:51 PM PDT by BossLady (Say it aint so ...Joe.....)
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To: mathprof
Here's an amusing quote from the end of the article:

“If Barack Obama says he’s willing to talk to foreign leaders without preconditions,” Mr. Hayden said, “I can imagine he’d be willing to talk to Bill Ayers about schools. But I think that’s about as far as their relationship goes.”

Didn't go down Joe say that this wasn't the case in the debate?

9 posted on 10/03/2008 5:53:00 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: mathprof

Geez, it’s one thing to carry the water for your guy, but THIS stuff requires a shovel!


10 posted on 10/03/2008 5:53:46 PM PDT by digger48
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To: mathprof

The smoke and mirror show continues.

If you want to be creeped out again, go look at the latest Obama worshipers.

Young black men giving credit to The One.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI


11 posted on 10/03/2008 5:55:24 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: mathprof

Lies and damn lies from the mother load of untruth.


13 posted on 10/03/2008 5:57:06 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: digger48
Note to NYT

I know you rag will probably shorted soon by the market But while your still printing the news that is a joke

Ayers actually met Obama while at Columbia.

14 posted on 10/03/2008 5:57:50 PM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: nuconvert
He launched his campaign from Ayers home - but they are not close!

Neither is Obama close to his pastor of 20 years!

Nor his grandmother, brother or typical white person mother!

Obama is not close to Franklin Raines his financal advisor!

Nobody can be close to Obama - he is the one -- the messiah -- a god! No time for mere mortals - he can't be burdened with people, he is our savior.

15 posted on 10/03/2008 5:58:03 PM PDT by DaveyB (Those who are merciful to the cruel will be cruel to the merciful.)
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To: mathprof

Spin? LIES


16 posted on 10/03/2008 5:58:53 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: mathprof

——In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment.——

Innoculation article. Dumped on Fri. night. I’m surprised they didn’t set off a bomb somewhere so they could bury the story.

BHO is saying come and get me! Will anyone step up?


17 posted on 10/03/2008 5:59:23 PM PDT by Doug TX
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To: mathprof

So, it is Ayers’ habit to host a launch of political career of an unknown Black man?


18 posted on 10/03/2008 5:59:54 PM PDT by paudio (Nobody cried 'racism' when Swann, Blackwell, and Steele lost to white guys in 2006)
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To: All


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19 posted on 10/03/2008 6:02:32 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: xtinct
Ayers recruited Obama. Obama worked for him....

Obama's education and crime policies were Ayers.
20 posted on 10/03/2008 6:02:36 PM PDT by igoramus08
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To: digger48
What a weird article by an Obama mouthpiece. Why bring up Ayers in even a pre-emptive manner?
21 posted on 10/03/2008 6:03:40 PM PDT by Carling (I'm a Typical White Person)
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To: mathprof

Sounds to me as if they are worried. Wonder if something in in the Rev Wright’s book?

It tells me we need to stay on it.


22 posted on 10/03/2008 6:05:00 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand up, Chuck)
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To: mathprof

The NYT version- Ayers is Chicago’s Mother Teresa.
Although the two radicals-Obomber and Ayers sat together for years on a six member board
and lived next door to each other-they hardly knew each other.
The fundraiser for Obomber that Ayers hosted in his home was actually a get together to distribute Girl Scout cookies and build bird houses.
I just hope that NRO’s Stanley Kurtz ( the definitive authority on AyersObama ) isn’t drinking anything when he reads this NYT fairy tale-because he may aspirate.
The New York Times is so deep in the tank for Obama they should be on display at Sea World.


23 posted on 10/03/2008 6:06:56 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: mathprof

For decades, Ayers and Obama have been best buddies, collagues, allies, and fellow travellers in the socialist/communist revolution.


24 posted on 10/03/2008 6:08:20 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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To: LegalEagle61; LibFreeOrDie; FlingWingFlyer; Finalapproach29er
Yep. The NY Times is scared. I'd say the McCain camp, the RNC, some 527s, or all of the above have put the word out.

The "man" who launched the Obamessiah's political career:

25 posted on 10/03/2008 6:08:28 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: xtinct

Ayers Dad helped him get into Harvard!


26 posted on 10/03/2008 6:10:24 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: igoramus08
Obama's education and crime policies were Ayers.

If McCain doesn't hammer this one with both barrels, he deserves to lose, (and bad)!

27 posted on 10/03/2008 6:10:41 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: mathprof

Oh, yeah... Like that is NOT an utter LIE!

The NYT is nothing more a mouthpiece for the Marxist/Communist propaganda of Obama and his buddies, especially Bill Ayers!


28 posted on 10/03/2008 6:10:47 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: mathprof; maggief

Need to work on a connection:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10763378
Scott Shane on U.S. Interrogation Techniques
Listen Now add to playlist

Fresh Air from WHYY, June 6, 2007 · Journalist Scott Shane writes for The New York Times about terrorism and the CIA’s interrogation techniques. His article “Soviet-Style ‘Torture’ Becomes ‘Interrogation’” describes how the United States has adopted interrogation techniques that it decried when they were used by the Soviet Union.


Maybe he knows him, may he does not. It is worth lookng into.


29 posted on 10/03/2008 6:10:56 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand up, Chuck)
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To: mathprof
BS!

This connection goes waaay back (to at least 1982):

"Obama and the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers were at college -- within a quarter mile of each other -- for two years in 1982 and 1983.

When Obama was at Columbia, Ayers was at Bank Street College (BSC), where he received an M.A. in Early Childhood Education -- 371 yards down the street.

BSC has no student housing, everyone lives off Campus. Columbia DOES have housing and encourages students to live on campus. However, Fox News interviewed 400 former students from his graduating class and no-one remembers him!

Presumably Obama lived off campus also.

Obama and Ayers had mutual friends. One was Edward Said, the left-wing Columbia superstar was just recently out of hiding. It is inconceivable, given their concentric politics, that they did not know each other.

Obama won't release his transcripts (actually he won't reveal any documentation from his past). Was it because it would reveal his ties to Ayers, a class in common (BSC has collaborations with Columbia), or maybe a common street address?"

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm

30 posted on 10/03/2008 6:12:31 PM PDT by Nasher (BHO: His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: Himself!)
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To: mathprof
Obama Has Met Ayers, but the Two Are Not Close [NYT spin]

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...

And the geniuses at the NYT wonder why their stock is doing
only marginally better than that of a bank that played fast-and-loose
with sub-prime mortgages.

LOL!!!!!
31 posted on 10/03/2008 6:13:45 PM PDT by VOA
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Of course, this is an improvement from the recent past, when the Slimes didn’t even mention Ayers in connection with Obama. /sarc


32 posted on 10/03/2008 6:15:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: mathprof

Hey, NYT! No one — and I mean NO ONE — pays any attention to your swill anymore. Tell that sophomoric little turd Pinch to turn off the lights and lock the doors. The Slimes is finished.


33 posted on 10/03/2008 6:15:58 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mathprof

published on Friday....


34 posted on 10/03/2008 6:16:08 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: mathprof

I have worked with many people in a day job or in a non-profit volunteer status or in a committee in a professional association. Had any been revealed to have a Bill Ayres history I’m afraid I would have had to disown the poor slob.


35 posted on 10/03/2008 6:16:28 PM PDT by jimfree (Dems beat up girls who don't toe the line.)
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To: PhiKapMom

I heard a radio show talking about Ayers dad - is his name Tom? He was important enough to know the Annenbergs and apparently is the one who must have gotten that $50mil grant from the Annenberg Foundation that Bill Ayers and BO used to try to influence Chicago kids - to no avail apparently.

Is there any proof that Ayers Dad helped Obama? I’m not doubting, I’m just wondering where this info came from.


36 posted on 10/03/2008 6:16:42 PM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: mathprof

Why would Ayers host a coffee for Hussien Obama is he didnt feel comfortable with his politics? Duh!


37 posted on 10/03/2008 6:16:43 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: DaveyB

The bottom of Obama’s bus is getting awfully crowded with “people I don’t recognize.”


38 posted on 10/03/2008 6:17:09 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mathprof

“..the Two Are Not Close [NYT spin]”

Neither were Hitler and Stalin.


39 posted on 10/03/2008 6:17:16 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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Trotting down the memory hole...

BLOG:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html

September 16, 2008
“Obama’s Foul Weather Friends”
By Scott Swett and Roger Canfield

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-45A6I-N5I

“Devastating Video, Obama talks about job Ayers gave him”
(Added September 14, 2008)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNkclbvuc9w

“Obama Ayers”
(Added August 27, 2008)

#

http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=304729375940845

“Annenberg Papers: Putting On Ayers?”
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:20 PM PT
SNIPPET: “Election ‘08: The Obama camp tries to suppress a campaign ad and university archives linking the candidate to a ‘60s terrorist who hosted his first campaign fundraiser. Is he being “swiftboated,” or is this a cover-up?”

#

BLOG:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-ayers-and-the-annenberg-challenge-cover-up/

“Obama, Ayers, and the Annenberg Challenge Cover-Up
Was Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers really just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” as Obama described him? (More on Obama and Ayers from Roger L. Simon here. )”

August 22, 2008 - by Tom Maguire

#

BLOG:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/obama-ayers.html

“School seals records on Obama’s service with radical Ayers”
(August 21, 2008)


40 posted on 10/03/2008 6:18:33 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: JRochelle

Obambi’s Hitler Youth. Get ready, folks, for some real
sh!t hitting the fan soon.


41 posted on 10/03/2008 6:19:19 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: backhoe; piasa

ping


42 posted on 10/03/2008 6:20:33 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: mathprof

Oh, how I hate the left, fascist little sh!ts that they are.


43 posted on 10/03/2008 6:22:17 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Cindy

-—Most of the bombs blamed on the Weathermen were placed to do only property damage, a fact Mr. Ayers emphasizes in his memoir——

Guys lay off...he’s the good natured bomber!


44 posted on 10/03/2008 6:23:49 PM PDT by Doug TX
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He has an agenda:

http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/06/23/1/a-conversation-with-scott-shane-of-the-new-york-times


45 posted on 10/03/2008 6:24:35 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand up, Chuck)
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To: appleharvey

“If McCain doesn’t hammer this one with both barrels, he deserves to lose, (and bad)!”

Agreed. McCain has been ruuning one of the most candy-a$$ed campaigns I’ve ever seen.


46 posted on 10/03/2008 6:26:26 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: LegalEagle61

lol @ header, “He knew him but they weren’t close...” Doesn’t this sound like a past pres saying he smoked dope but didn’t inhale?


47 posted on 10/03/2008 6:26:29 PM PDT by theoriginalgriff
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To: mathprof

Much is missing here.


48 posted on 10/03/2008 6:26:35 PM PDT by IL1949 (Sarah Palin is proof of divine intervention.)
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To: mathprof

This is their pre-emptive piece on Ayers. In a sense, it’s good for McCain since it may backfire for them. It only makes more people ask, “Who is Ayers?”


49 posted on 10/03/2008 6:28:44 PM PDT by paudio (Nobody cried 'racism' when Swann, Blackwell, and Steele lost to white guys in 2006)
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To: mathprof

Whew!!! For a while I was under the assumption the Barry O and William Ayers were good buddies, thankfully the New York Slimes have cleared up this obvious falsehood for me. LOL

Believe it or not, this is good stuff. The fact that the New Yorks slimes are even acknowledging the existence of Ayers is a good thing for McCain... The right wing blogs are starting to take effect and their message is getting through.

I thought they would never admit that Ayers even existed. Now they’re actually being forced to defend Barry O with stories that even mention the names of his flaky associates.


50 posted on 10/03/2008 6:29:16 PM PDT by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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