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Obama: Let childern of illegals attend comm. college.
Charlotte Observer ^ | 9-30-08 | staff

Posted on 09/30/2008 11:50:10 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary

Barack Obama suggested this weekend that children of illegal immigrants should have an opportunity to attend community colleges.

In an interview with WUNC this weekend, the Democratic presidential candidate said children who attend public schools should have the chance to continue to improve themselves.

"For us to deny them access to community college, even though they've never lived in Mexico, at least as far as they can tell ... is to deny that this is how we've always built this country up," he said.

The campaign of Republican John McCain issued a statement saying he was opposed to providing benefits to illegal immigrants, but did not address community college attendance, which has been a contentious issue in North Carolina.

"John McCain does not support amnesty or benefits for undocumented immigrants," his campaign said in the statement. "He has consistently opposed giving amnesty or public benefits to undocumented immigrants."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communitycollege; education; highereducation; illegals; instatetuition; northcarolina; obama
McCain says NO! ???? Is this the same Juan???
1 posted on 09/30/2008 11:50:10 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary
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To: Anti-Hillary

Doesn’t look like this will play too well with the folks in North Carolina.


2 posted on 09/30/2008 11:51:13 PM PDT by nobamanada (No Way, No How, No Hussein)
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To: Anti-Hillary

obama wants to give “illegals” community college education on the taxpayers dime?


3 posted on 09/30/2008 11:51:34 PM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Not sure what to do with this.


4 posted on 09/30/2008 11:52:14 PM PDT by sageb1 (Feminism is dead. Long live Palinism!)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Finally, coming around. Of course now you’ll have all the socialist hispanic “leaders” condemning him. Well, who cares, they weren’t going to vote for him anyway.


5 posted on 09/30/2008 11:52:44 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (Socialism has ruined Latin America, let's not let it ruin the USA!)
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To: machogirl

I guess. The article doesn’t say. I surmized that from the McCain response.


6 posted on 09/30/2008 11:55:05 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: machogirl

“obama wants to give ‘illegals’ community college education on the taxpayers dime?”

From what I gather, Obama is talking about natural born citizens whose parents are illegals. At least, that’s what the whole never lived in Mexico thing implies. I’m not up to speed on the court cases, but I’d assume the children of illegals born on U.S. soil are legal citizens.

By the way, I don’t think anyone should go to community college. Waste of time. Burn them down.


7 posted on 09/30/2008 11:58:57 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Anti-Hillary

Obama’s comment is about the CHILDREN of illegal immigrants, who if born here, are citizens.

Then, that comment seems juxtaposed with a comment from McCain about illegal immigrants, NOT their children who were born here.

Or am I missing something at this late hour?


8 posted on 10/01/2008 12:00:20 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Tublecane

Ok, I’m not the only one who noticed that, LOL.

Basically, Obama’s quote is him saying he would give people that to which they are already entitled. Sounds like a gaffe to me.


9 posted on 10/01/2008 12:02:54 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Anti-Hillary

I remember during the primary debate when Hillary said she believed that illegals should have drivers licenses, 0bama agreed and was enthusiastic about it.

We have heard nothing about this during the campaign. It would be as simple as making an ad using the raw debate footage. Doesn’t get much easier than that!

Is the McCain campaign and RNC sleeping at the wheel on this?


10 posted on 10/01/2008 12:06:52 AM PDT by KoRn ("Change": Come Help A Nitwit Get Elected)
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To: KJC1
He qualifies it with "as far as they can tell," meaning, born in Mexico but came here at a young age w/ parents.


11 posted on 10/01/2008 12:08:25 AM PDT by MDformerDem
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To: Anti-Hillary

If they were born in the USA they are citizens even if mom and dad were illegal aliens.


12 posted on 10/01/2008 12:11:21 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: MDformerDem

Good point. The qualifier begs further clarification.


13 posted on 10/01/2008 12:13:27 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Anti-Hillary

The State of Texas under Republican leadership granted in-state tuition for illegal aliens to public universities.


14 posted on 10/01/2008 12:18:10 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Tublecane

interesting opinion on CC


15 posted on 10/01/2008 1:08:11 AM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: Tublecane
By the way, I don’t think anyone should go to community college. Waste of time. Burn them down.

The community college system in Virginia is set up as feeder schools to the University of Virginia and Virginia Tech. You can do your first two years cheaply and locally, then transfer in directly, if you've got the grades. Other states differ I'm sure, but our system is excellent.

16 posted on 10/01/2008 1:22:58 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: nobamanada

Seriously, 0baby can forget about any false hopes he ever had about NC. I think that was a wet dream anyway.


17 posted on 10/01/2008 3:09:37 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: nobamanada

If they are paying tuition and book fees what’s the problem with children of illegals attending community college?

I’m against illegal immigration and all that so don’t start in on me that way. I’m just wondering if there is some other issue about them going to community college. And, yes, I’m against them getting financial aid.


18 posted on 10/01/2008 3:52:29 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: nina0113

I’m in New York. Our Community College’s are great first steps. A lot of kids find out what they really want to be after two years. Gets a lot of the mandatory cr** courses out of the way, too.


19 posted on 10/01/2008 3:55:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Anti-Hillary


20 posted on 10/01/2008 4:08:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Anti-Hillary
"John McCain does not support amnesty or benefits for undocumented immigrants," his campaign said in the statement. "He has consistently opposed giving amnesty or public benefits to undocumented immigrants."

Unless something has drastically changed recently, this just isn't true.

But if Obama wants to spread this lie, so be it. :)

21 posted on 10/01/2008 4:11:31 AM PDT by Allegra ( NO BAILOUT.)
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To: trumandogz
The State of Texas under Republican ( RINO Rick Perry) leadership granted in-state tuition for illegal aliens to public universities.
22 posted on 10/01/2008 4:14:31 AM PDT by Allegra ( NO BAILOUT.)
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To: machogirl
The Boston Globe Democrat (copyright: Michael Graham) runs an editorial every few months urging the Massachusetts Legislature to pass a law giving undocumented Americans (illegal aliens) in-state tuition at state colleges. They use the same BS talking points every time. They say, their parents work and pay taxes in the state. They also say, the immigrants must go to a Massachusetts high school for three years and graduate. Then the bill comes out and it never says anything about parents or paying taxes and it also says, must graduate from a Massachusetts high school or “THE EQUIVELENT THEREOF”. That means someone can cross the Rio Grande, drive to Massachusetts with a Mexican Diploma and they would be eligible for in-state tuition. Thankfully this is one issue the legislature listens to the citizens and votes it down.
23 posted on 10/01/2008 5:20:56 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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24 posted on 10/01/2008 5:28:06 AM PDT by bcsco (Sarah America! Ignore the lipstik at your peril!)
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To: perez24
If they are paying tuition and book fees what’s the problem with children of illegals attending community college?

Tuition covers only a small portion of the vast sums of government tax money going into all state-sponsored higher education. That's your money that little Juan or Maria is sucking down, and if space is at a premium, they're keeping real citizens out, as well.

It'd be one thing if we had a guest worker program for lettuce pickers, but it's quite another thing to fling open the borders and let every poor person come here to pluck all the fruit, leaves and branches off the tree of the American dream. Since a community college education doesn't qualify you for much anyway (I know, I have one), then you get the Juans and Marias beating your kids out on affirmative action guidelines when it comes time to get paychecks.

My company is winding down its operations, has been for the last couple of months, and so far, about 90% of those who have found jobs elsewhere are in some sort of protected category. I'm very likely to be one of the folks there at the end, with a few weeks of severance for my troubles.

25 posted on 10/01/2008 5:30:07 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: Anti-Hillary
""John McCain does not support amnesty or benefits for undocumented immigrants," his campaign said in the statement. "He has consistently opposed giving amnesty or public benefits to undocumented immigrants."

Say what???

Just keep your mouth shut now, John. Let this lie go...please!

26 posted on 10/01/2008 5:33:22 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The Gov't can't legislate happiness)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Sounds good to me. But they do it AT THEIR EXPENSE AT OUT OF STATE TUITION PRICES. Our universities are filled with people from all over the world. Besides, if we create an artificial supply of consumers, then there will be more money for education (smile—last sentence only).


27 posted on 10/01/2008 5:37:02 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign state.)
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To: Tublecane
By the way, I don’t think anyone should go to community college. Waste of time. Burn them down.

CCs are for football players to get their grades up. Definitely needed.

28 posted on 10/01/2008 5:38:36 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign state.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

those students are LEGALLY able to obtain a student visa and finish their education as a TEMP STUDENT VISITOR.

Then they can go home to their parents.

This is about LOWER tuition not eduction.

This is about a handout to illegals.

This is about illegals replacing legal students.


29 posted on 10/01/2008 5:48:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hunter112

Thank you for a very reasoned and logical response. I agree with you on this issue.

I’ll pray that you find something new before your company shuts down. I was fired once but it was one of the “get the h-— out of here” variety. WHat you’re going through is much worse.


30 posted on 10/01/2008 8:07:13 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: perez24
Thanks, I appreciate that! It's tough being a middle-aged white nonveteran guy who doesn't speak Spanish. And you're right, my previous terminations took place at 4:45 PM on a Friday, where you didn't have to face the place the next week. This has been like falling off a cliff in slow motion.

What's worse is that we had a bunch of people who were dedicated to the cause of making our customers happy, now they've lost the will to do a good job, and bickering has emerged. After my company refused to give me a job at another facility in the next state (while making a pretense that they wanted to be fair), I've sort of joined my co-workers in their attitude.

31 posted on 10/01/2008 9:10:29 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: HenpeckedCon

State subsidized education is that for a good reason. So those that live and work and PAY TAXES in the state get a break.

You’re right. I don’t buy this garbage that most illegals pay taxes. They do pay sales tax and other assorted taxes but not SS, income, and medicaid/medicare. If they do, they have committed ID FRAUD, ID THEFT, USING FAKE DOCS and those are felonies punishable by prison time and big-time fines.

Off the books hiring also leads to: welfare fraud, medical fraud, ETC.

Thank goodness they have some sense in the legislature. If obama has his way, the state leg won’t have to worry anymore, it will become a national law that every state has to follow.

I say that mandates, esp about illegal immigration, is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. (I feel better now after ranting).


32 posted on 10/01/2008 10:34:49 AM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: KoRn

McCain, I think, would rather the issue not ever come up during the election. He has the same thoughts on this as Bush, apparently.


33 posted on 10/01/2008 12:05:16 PM PDT by WildcatClan (The world is full of fatheads; so I invented Diet Shampoo)
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