Posted on 09/28/2008 10:59:32 AM PDT by DGHoodini
Port Arthur is close enough to Houston geographically, in a national sense, to be considered “in the Houston area, is it not? The person on tv that I saw, was not being meticulous with his specifics, as I have heard a fluctuatiion of the number of refineries between 13 and 14. It *was* a second hand report. Not so much exacting, as general. I have since read, that even the ones declared “back online” are in varying stages of production output, many running only at about 50% output....You take what you can get...If they are up and running, even at 50%...that still beats the heck out of not being up and running at all.
Gas is also being brought into the Houston area from other parts of the country, notbaly from refineries in Illinois/Indiana. A freinds son owns his own rig and has a haz-mat ticket. He’s been hauling tankers of gasoline down there as fast as he can get turned around. The DOT has temporarliy extended the max drive time between breaks from 10 to 18 hours for the guys pulling those loads.
You are reading too much into my words. The volume in the pipeline remains in the pipeline. You only get product out by putting more product in.
No. Port Arthur to Houston is about the same distance as Baltimore, MD to Philadelphia, PA.
person on tv that I saw, was not being meticulous with his specifics, as I have heard a fluctuatiion of the number of refineries between 13 and 14.
Then why did you type 17?
I have since read, that even the ones declared “back online” are in varying stages of production output, many running only at about 50% output....
True. As of Friday, none of the Houston & Port Arthur refineries were up to full output.
http://www.oe.netl.doe.gov/docs/2008_SitRep_19_Ike_092608_12PM.pdf
that still beats the heck out of not being up and running at all.
No doubt. We will see substantial improvement this week.
Spoken like a true Pompeian.
Could it be be ause that’s what *they* said?
The talking head said 4 of 17 refineries offline due to Ijke, were still offline. In a different report, I heard a talking head say that 13 had been “put back online”...In yet a different report, I heard that “all but one refinery, had had power restored to their facilities”. Obviously, the information is fluid and incomplete, from all three sources, but all hold elements of the truth.
Daily details of each specific refinery status and many other energy related impacts from this storm can be found at:
http://www.oe.netl.doe.gov/named_event.aspx?ID=20
click “expand window” see all the previous reports.
I'm currently working an upgrading project at one of the refineries with the worst damage. I have been keeping close tabs on their status.
Just don’t bi+ch about the price at the pump, as the real price is paid by hardworking Gulf Coast Texans that may not have a roof, power, drinkable water, working sewage, if they even have a house left, who showed up to work the day after Ike hit, just so you can have gas.
My the Lord bless ya.
Just don’t bi+ch about the price at the pump, as the real price is paid by hardworking Gulf Coast Texans that may not have a roof, power, drinkable water, working sewage, if they even have a house left, who showed up to work the day after Ike hit, just so you can have gas.
May the Lord bless ya.
I appreciate that. You’re working with statistics, and i’m having to settle for the “public consumption” reports that are relayed by public relations flaks that hit the news outlets. Not sayin they are lying, but thety also don’t particularly want to get into dry statistics either. They just want to give enough general overview, to keep us peasants from revolting. ;o)
Not really statistics but specific refinery reports. I understand most are not interested enough to look at the details.
Today’s update was posted since my last link. Total of 7,503,309 BPD refining in both hurricanes’ impact area.
In summary as of 9/29/08 10:00 AM EDT:
3,624,589 BPD full output
2,196,500 BPD running at partial output
1,171,720 BPD starting, should be partial output soon
424,500 BPD still shut down
http://www.oe.netl.doe.gov/docs/2008_SitRep_20_Ike_092908_12PM.pdf
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